The Mahomes Vs. Burrow Debate

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(06-30-2023, 03:28 PM)PhilHos Wrote: No way is Lebron the GOAT. Yes, I hate the dude, but he's nowhere near the defensive player MJ was. MJ is clearly remembered for his scoring prowess but as someone who used to watch and root against him all the time, he was a great defender as well. Lebron is only a good defender if you considering flopping to be a legitimate defense.

That's why I am making the distinction. I think MJ had a better peak, but Lebron is just going to win out on longevity and how well he plays within it IMO. He is still an elite player as he approaches 40.  You're correct that LBJ is not as good of a defender, but he was still a defensive plus in his prime - especially in Miami. The thing with flopping is funny to me. He is incentivized to do it. He is plenty strong enough to get move through the contact as he goes to the rim, but why do that and potentially miss out on free throws? It is a game of math. He's a fine free throw shooter and exaggerating the contact scores his team more points. If anything, we as fans should have an issue with how the game is refereed and not the players that find the best strategy. 

Anyways, he is my personal GOAT. I think MJ had the highest prime we have ever seen. It's not something I am super passionate about, though.