We are all equal again, right?

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(06-30-2023, 03:31 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: My position is you can't solve inequality with more inequality.

I think to an extent you can, at least temporarily, without it being part of the end goal. And to an extent, avoiding all appearances of inequality can cement preexisting inequalities. Maybe not in this case though.

(06-30-2023, 03:31 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote:   Lower income students includes more white people than any other ethnicity.

Yeah well, that is not surprising to me since there are so many more white people overall. I'd say it's the percentages that matter, not the total number.

(06-30-2023, 03:31 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: The percentage is lower but the overall numbers are greater.  A dirt poor white kid will still take a back seat to a wealthy black or Hispanic kid.  Now, if you want to start a certain percentage of admittants need to be under a certain income level, I'd be for that, as long as you eliminated any possible means of discerning the person's ethnicity.

That did not occur to me as of now. But sure, seems like a better approach than mine at least.

(06-30-2023, 03:31 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You'll note that white students whose families make less than $20k a year score 478 math and 480 verbal.  Contrast that with a black student whose family makes more than $100k, 490 math and 495 verbal.  That's shocking, is it not?  So the real question is why this disparity? 

I was not aware of that and I have no idea why that is. I could come up with half-baked theories regarding the verbal score - it seems to me there is something like white language and black language, after all, and a test might advantage the former - but I'll have to wait for someone way more versed on this to answer that. All I could say to that would probably be ignorant nonsense. Is it possible that even quite poor white children can attend better schools in white neighbourhoods? That's the best I can do. Any theories on your part?