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The Mahomes Vs. Burrow Debate
(07-01-2023, 09:12 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Nate, LeBrons basketball IQ may be the highest all time.  Are you saying he isn’t basketball smart or real life smart? On the court, few, if any, compare. Jordan was as athletically gifted as Lebron, but played in an era of lesser athletes.  

Off the court, everyone you listed had more question marks around their life decision making.

I said he had the most gifts of any athlete of all time on the court. Take it for what you will.

Lebron can see plays before they happen and make perfect passes, he is damn smart on the court.

Not the best shooter though, and there is no way Jordan was as athletically gifted as Lebron early in age. At North Carolina Mike was 
all skin and bones, just a lanky dude who hit a big shot. He went to the NBA and had to build himself into what he was to take the beating
that the Pistons and Knicks put on him.

Lebron James was built like a tank at 17 years old and could run like a cheetah and jump over cars. Freak athlete and born with it.

(07-01-2023, 09:16 PM)Housh Wrote: People say he’s lying but Bron does this shit off of seeing plays ran ONCE or twice.

Have you heard the infamous story of LeBron recognizing a play ran against him in 2018 and still remembering it while he was a Laker?

That is high level confidence and play recognition.


Other teams players have said they heard LeBron calling out their plays while they were running the play. ThTs more than just having lucky memory. That’s IQ.

Idk how this LeBron isn’t smart narrative has happened. You cannot get the stats and success he’s gotten without being smart. He’s gotta be top 5 all time in passing IQ too. Only ppl CONSISTENTLY making passes like Bron are Russ, Joker, Paul, and Harden. Probably way more but that’s all i remember


https://youtu.be/eIo01nhXTLg

Thanks for this, good stuff. Really like what I saw from the Joker of the Nuggets this year passing the ball.

Sees the court very well, helps when you a 7 foot tall, but he can run the court with the ball, rare skills for a big man.

(07-01-2023, 10:19 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I genuinely don’t get the Lebron hate. I’m a Thunder fan, so it’s not like I just love Lebron. In a time where it’s common for athletes/celebrities to be caught up in scandals where they cheat, or they brandish weapons, or whatever else, Lebron has set the standard. He was hyped up to the best ever while he was still in high school, was drafted #1 overall and has achieved what many thought he was capable of. Off the court, he married his high-school sweetheart, has never been caught up in a scandal and seems to have a good relationship with his children.

I can fully understand not thinking he’s the best ever. However, to insinuate that he is stupid, mentally weak, or whatever else is just so strange to me. He’s one of the greatest players of all time and has been a role model while doing so. Under immense pressure at that, I might add.

Lebron farted on a fan once and constantly brings politics and racism into everything. If he had respect for his fans and just 
stuck to what he is great at there would be no Lebron hate.

(07-02-2023, 12:23 PM)samhain Wrote: I'm ride or die with team Jordan, but LeBron is far from dumb.  Considering the expectations he's had on his shoulder since grade school, I think he did just fine.  He's an excellent father, he's active in the community, and he's undoubtedly one of the best ever to step onto a court.  Lots of young players with that kind of pressure don't manage it nearly as well.  It literally breaks many of them. 

Fair enough. Just not a fan of his off the court speech or the way he treats some fans.

I find Michael Jordan to be the epitome of the best player ever, even with the gambling crap. Pete Rose is a great too and I think 
was treated poorly. Just don't bet while you are playing the game dummies.
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The Mahomes Vs. Burrow Debate - SHRacerX - 06-22-2023, 12:15 PM
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