07-06-2023, 05:20 PM
(07-06-2023, 04:06 PM)hollodero Wrote: Aaaaah, that is tricky logic...
...say I run some great media network, lauded by everyone for being so fair and balanced and excellent, hugely popular, but there is still a slight mistake at times, one always seen by millions. Does this make up for the egeregiousness of someone else who publishes the most vile and fake information, but only a few people see it?
And yes, this is my way of calling the mainstream media fair and balanced and excellent. Because they absolutely are.
Cheeky.
Quote:I get it. I'm just saying that you can't know for certain and it's difficult to claim that you more or less can. I get that what you call in-patient treatment probably has a far bigger success rate, but that doesn't mean there isn't any other way that could possibly work. There are people that got clean without expensive programs, after all. And you can't also know what Hunter is actually doing, maybe he has some life-coach/therapeut person around him most of his days. To call his sobriety failed when it's not really confirmed seems a bit rushed. Not that I would seriously believe that he's fine.
I can only go off what I see and what I know of the process. Someone with that much money can afford absolutely obscene in-patient programs. Having a bodyguard/life coach is not a serious avenue of treatment, it's a stop gap measure. It's also frequently used by wealthy people as a way to avoid in-patient care. It doesn't work. See Artie Lange as a prime example. I know you have zero idea who he is, or rather I'd be very surprised if you did, but his example is textbook in this regard.
As you say, not everyone's recovery is the same, but there are things that work and things that don't, and the percentages aren't small in regards to the difference.
