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Cocaine in the West Wing
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(07-06-2023, 05:47 PM)hollodero Wrote:  

Yeah, and that's where I see the issue. Which in no way is belittling your knowledge and experience, but there are just limits of what you can know for certain when it comes to Hunter. It reminds me how I felt when some news anchors invited established psychologists, that sure knew their stuff, to diagnose Trump and claim he clearly has a narcissistic personality disorder. I felt uneasy, like they should not declare that a fact from a distance in good conscience. But sure, I also felt that they're probably right, he is pretty narcissistic after all.

And I have a similar unease here. While I also think you're probably right about Hunter. It is quite likely given the illustrated circumstances.

Yeah, I get what you're saying, and if we were talking about an issue with a bit more nuance to it, like mental health issues, I'd be 100% behind you.  But when it comes to addiction treatment the statistics are very clear.  If you are serious about recovery and you have the means you go to in-patient treatment.  I've literally taken people to Tarzana Treatment Centers myself to ensure they got there, because when they finally ask to go you know they're serious about dealing with their problem.

I know Hunter wasn't in treatment on the 4th (and his behavior on the balcony was a bit odd, but on that I agree with you completely and I won't speculate).  I know that in-patient is the only route to long term success for the vast, vast majority of people.  Also, as you concur, he has a horrific track record and doesn't strike me as a particularly good or remorseful person.  This is, of course, based on what is publicly known about him, but there's a lot of info there and pretty much none of it is good.
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Cocaine in the West Wing - SunsetBengal - 07-05-2023, 09:29 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - KillerGoose - 07-05-2023, 09:46 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - KillerGoose - 07-05-2023, 10:58 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-05-2023, 01:41 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-05-2023, 01:46 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-05-2023, 01:50 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-05-2023, 01:51 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-06-2023, 11:49 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-06-2023, 12:56 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-06-2023, 01:09 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Belsnickel - 07-05-2023, 09:48 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-05-2023, 09:54 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - CJD - 07-05-2023, 11:25 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-05-2023, 11:36 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - CJD - 07-05-2023, 11:39 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-05-2023, 11:54 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - HarleyDog - 07-05-2023, 11:26 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Nately120 - 07-05-2023, 11:43 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-05-2023, 12:10 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-06-2023, 01:36 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 01:43 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 01:42 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 03:13 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 03:32 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Nately120 - 07-06-2023, 03:38 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 04:06 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 05:47 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-06-2023, 05:57 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 06:16 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 06:54 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-06-2023, 06:23 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 08:29 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Leon - 07-06-2023, 09:15 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 09:16 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Leon - 07-06-2023, 09:44 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 09:54 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 10:28 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-07-2023, 08:14 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 08:48 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 12:31 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 01:22 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - KillerGoose - 07-07-2023, 01:54 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 08:46 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Dill - 07-07-2023, 12:44 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 09:52 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 05:16 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 05:40 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 06:32 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 08:24 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-07-2023, 08:44 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 08:49 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-07-2023, 08:57 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Nately120 - 07-07-2023, 09:12 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 09:16 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - HarleyDog - 07-07-2023, 10:32 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 11:28 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-07-2023, 12:32 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 12:38 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-07-2023, 01:01 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 01:20 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-07-2023, 12:30 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 12:37 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-07-2023, 01:33 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 01:53 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 03:29 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Nately120 - 07-06-2023, 03:27 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - basballguy - 07-06-2023, 03:42 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Nately120 - 07-06-2023, 03:51 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-06-2023, 07:15 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - basballguy - 07-06-2023, 07:23 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-06-2023, 07:41 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - BigPapaKain - 07-06-2023, 09:45 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-06-2023, 10:46 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - basballguy - 07-07-2023, 02:09 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 01:53 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 02:15 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-07-2023, 02:18 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-07-2023, 02:30 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-07-2023, 11:12 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-08-2023, 02:18 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-08-2023, 02:39 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - HarleyDog - 07-08-2023, 02:55 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-08-2023, 03:22 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-08-2023, 09:10 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-08-2023, 08:12 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Stonyhands - 07-10-2023, 02:40 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-10-2023, 05:25 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - samhain - 07-09-2023, 01:03 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-09-2023, 01:36 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-09-2023, 01:59 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-10-2023, 05:21 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-10-2023, 05:44 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-11-2023, 02:27 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - KillerGoose - 07-09-2023, 06:05 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - samhain - 07-09-2023, 10:31 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - samhain - 07-09-2023, 12:57 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - HarleyDog - 07-10-2023, 05:32 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Nately120 - 07-10-2023, 08:01 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - basballguy - 07-14-2023, 06:23 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-14-2023, 05:44 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-14-2023, 05:59 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-14-2023, 06:25 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - samhain - 07-14-2023, 10:37 PM

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