07-07-2023, 12:02 PM
(07-07-2023, 03:07 AM)Dill Wrote: I don't think I'll find that "enough SCOTUS justices came to that conclusion."
I think I'll find that Dredd was abrogated by the 13th and 14th Amendments, passed by Congress.
No one maintained that the SOTUS is suppose to consider "opinion of the general populace." But legislative bodies ARE supposed to.
SCOTUS interprets the Constitution. If the Constitution is altered then that decision is made for them. By "the system".
Quote:Well you can't have your cake and eat it too. When it comes to college admissions, elimination of current race-based considerations will mean discrimination against minorities in favor of wealthier white students, especially while the majority of U.S. colleges continue to embrace legacy admissions.
Why, because blacks and Hispanics can't possibly gain entry based on merit? You have a curiously low opinion of the intelligence and abilities of the people you purport to champion. As for legacy admissions, get rid of them too. As I've said repeatedly, I'm all about what's fair. Legacy admissions are not fair. Start a lawsuit to get rid of them.
Quote:So you don't avoid "discrimination based on ethnicity" by supporting policies and court rulings designed to protect white admissions. And that's one thing if you genuinely don't know the history of the policies and rulings, but quite another if you recognize that history well enough to deflect it.
How is admittance based on merit inherently beneficial to whites? Are you still referring to legacy admissions? It'd be curious if you are, as I've never expressed any support for them.
Quote:So I'm NOT going hear what pertinent facts changed. ok.
And no, Congress passing amendments to change discriminatory law in 1965 =/= "exactly what the court is doing right now with AA."
You're correct, the legislative and judicial branches have different jobs.
Quote:You've just argued that it's not the SCOTUS job to bend to popular opinion. They are not in this case, any more than they were in Dobbs.
A link showing polls favoring the end of AA does not establish motivation for the court.
Nor did I say it does. You're the one who raised the issue of popular opinion, not me. I've been expressly arguing against that being a consideration. Odd though, that when confronted by your own argument, not used in your favor, you suddenly take issue with it.
Quote:Your link makes some interesting points--such as the two-to-one majority opposition to AA college admissions among those without college degrees.
One has to wonder how many in your poll actually understand how the admission policies they approve of actually work.
Sadly, not everyone in the nation can be as educated and enlightened as you, Dill.
