07-07-2023, 12:09 PM
(07-06-2023, 10:43 PM)Dill Wrote: Isolate and quote the statement where I say the bolded, or which warrants it. Explain the warrant.
If you cannot, then it's a made up point. It won't get stronger with simple repetition + ad hominem.
Even so its hardly "deflected" since I just dedicated a post to refuting your "monolith" thesis, as it applies to both "races." And not with one-liners.
For the record, a claim recognizing white supremacy in politics and education and a claim that "other ethnicities are just as intelligent and capable as white people" can both be true at the same time. So affirming one doesn't negate the other, as you appear to assume.
"Subjectivity" is ok now? Or just bad when assigned to "leftists." Your vision is surely a wonderful gift, but until you can articulate it into some form of public evidence, it remains yours alone and no basis for refuting logical arguments grounded in law and historical record.
In MLK's "Letter," he refers to Blacks who supported segregation. That support doesn't look any better if we suppose Black segregationists were "intelligent as white people," "able to make their own conclusions. Yes, even when it [was]a different conclusion white people who 'magically kn[e]w' what [was] best for them."
And white people who "magically kn[e]w" what was best for Blacks back then, and so risked their lives participating in Black-organized Freedom Rides don't seem especially blameworthy in retrospect, even if suffering from a "white savior complex," or whatever you label people who put their lives on the line to fight for fellow Americans' rights and opportunities.
Back then it was no different than now--there were plenty of people who attacked the character and motives of civil rights protestors rather than the injustice they protested.
The modern left has really set up a fascinating mental structure of heads I win, tails, you lose. If a minority has a position contrary to the perceived "white majority" then they are fighting for their rights against an oppressive majority. If a minority agrees with the perceived "white majority" then they're a sell out, participating in "white supremacy", or labeled as worse. These mental gymnastics are honestly impressive, as you've built a cage that inures you to even having to consider people as more than being part of an aggregate whole, a whole with rules that must be obeyed.
You see this most markedly when a minority of prominence expresses views that are contrary to the modern left's acceptable opinions. They are attacked mercilessly and labeled with slurs that would get a right leaning person labeled a despicable racist if uttered by them. Your comparison of Asians who want to be treated fairly with "black segregationists" is a perfect, albeit more clever, example of this. The comparison is unflattering by design and seeks to equate a desire to be treated fairly with being in favor of racial oppression.
Honestly, It'd actually be impressive if it weren't so odious and malignant.
