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Cocaine in the West Wing
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(07-07-2023, 12:31 PM)GMDino Wrote: Of course I know once an addict always an addict.  You said he HAS a sever drug addiction and since you don't think he went to a facility you inferred he is still actively using drugs.

He does, and always will.  BTW, you're the one who started this whole conjecture by saying he was in recovery.  If I can't say he's definitely using then you can't say he's definitively in recovery.  This sword cuts both ways.


Quote:You don't want o have to provide proof (and I didn't ask you because you didn't ask me for proof that he is clean) because you are hiding behind it being "an opinion", yet earlier you were quite sure due to your "experience".  That's quite the flip-flop you have working for you there.  And your hang up on the pleas deal is probably more to do with you being jaded to the system than anything else.  Just an opinion based on what your write about DA's and defendants. 

As stated above, this is an opinion versus opinion argument as neither of us have direct access to that human turd.  Based on my experience with addicts, which is far more extensive than yours, and my numerous trainings on the subject I can make a judgment based on known facts.  Is it correct?  Potentially no, but do I think it's correct, yes.  Again we're both stating our opinion, a subject you started by giving yours.



Quote:All I can do is observe behavior and offer my opinion.  

Oh, you mean exactly what I'm doing?


Quote:I have not claimed to be an expert.  I have not claimed that I am absolutely right.  Unlike, well, some people.   Smirk

I am an expert on this subject.  I don't have to claim it.  I have thousands of hours of real world experience dealing with addicts, not to mention numerous trainings.  Again, you love experts until they disagree with you, then they're meaningless.


Quote:Others, who knew him, have said publicly that JR used drugs.  I do not know of him ever seeking help.  They say Sr is addicted to Adderall too.  All I know is what I have read.

I have zero doubt Don Jr. used drugs.  It's very possible he still is.  You definitively stated he was, which is your opinion.  The problem is your hypocrisy when someone else made the same claim about Hunter.


Quote:That's all you know too, but this gives you a chance to flex those 20+ years and talk down to anyone who disagrees. Because how could their opinion be as good as yours?

On this subject your opinion is absolutely not on par with mine.  Unless you have some expertise in this area that you haven't shared with the class.  Is that the case?  Also, "flex those 20+ years"?  Could you be more condescending?  Again, you love experts unless they disagree with you.  You're so blinded by partisanship and ideology you don't even see your consistent, and massive, contradictions.  Two of them being expertly demonstrated in this very thread.

Quote:Which reminds me:

I asked earlier about your experiences and if you wanted people to turn their life around.  If you would admire them for the efforts.  Seemed you didn't answer that.

I'm happy to answer.   A person who genuinely tries to turn their life around deserves applause, even if they're a convicted murderer who will never be free again.  I don't think Hunter falls into that category, you do.  Both, again, opinions.
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Cocaine in the West Wing - SunsetBengal - 07-05-2023, 09:29 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - KillerGoose - 07-05-2023, 09:46 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - KillerGoose - 07-05-2023, 10:58 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-05-2023, 01:41 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-05-2023, 01:46 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-05-2023, 01:50 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-05-2023, 01:51 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-06-2023, 11:49 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-06-2023, 12:56 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-06-2023, 01:09 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Belsnickel - 07-05-2023, 09:48 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-05-2023, 09:54 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - CJD - 07-05-2023, 11:25 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-05-2023, 11:36 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - CJD - 07-05-2023, 11:39 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-05-2023, 11:54 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - HarleyDog - 07-05-2023, 11:26 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Nately120 - 07-05-2023, 11:43 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-05-2023, 12:10 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-06-2023, 01:36 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 01:43 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 01:42 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 03:13 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 03:32 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Nately120 - 07-06-2023, 03:38 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 04:06 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 05:47 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 06:16 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 06:54 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-06-2023, 06:23 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 08:29 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Leon - 07-06-2023, 09:15 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 09:16 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Leon - 07-06-2023, 09:44 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 09:54 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 10:28 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-07-2023, 08:14 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 08:48 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 12:31 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 07-07-2023, 12:51 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 01:22 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - KillerGoose - 07-07-2023, 01:54 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 08:46 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Dill - 07-07-2023, 12:44 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 09:52 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 05:16 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 05:40 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 06:32 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-06-2023, 08:24 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-07-2023, 08:44 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 08:49 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-07-2023, 08:57 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Nately120 - 07-07-2023, 09:12 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 09:16 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - HarleyDog - 07-07-2023, 10:32 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 11:28 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-07-2023, 12:32 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 12:38 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-07-2023, 01:01 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 01:20 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-07-2023, 12:30 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 12:37 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-07-2023, 01:33 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 01:53 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-06-2023, 03:29 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Nately120 - 07-06-2023, 03:27 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - basballguy - 07-06-2023, 03:42 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Nately120 - 07-06-2023, 03:51 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-06-2023, 07:15 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - basballguy - 07-06-2023, 07:23 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-06-2023, 07:41 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - BigPapaKain - 07-06-2023, 09:45 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-06-2023, 10:46 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - basballguy - 07-07-2023, 02:09 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 01:53 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 02:15 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-07-2023, 02:18 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-07-2023, 02:30 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-07-2023, 11:12 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-08-2023, 02:18 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-08-2023, 02:39 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - HarleyDog - 07-08-2023, 02:55 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-08-2023, 03:22 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-08-2023, 09:10 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-08-2023, 08:12 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Stonyhands - 07-10-2023, 02:40 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-10-2023, 05:25 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - samhain - 07-09-2023, 01:03 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-09-2023, 01:36 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - pally - 07-09-2023, 01:59 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-10-2023, 05:21 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - GMDino - 07-10-2023, 05:44 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-11-2023, 02:27 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - KillerGoose - 07-09-2023, 06:05 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - samhain - 07-09-2023, 10:31 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - samhain - 07-09-2023, 12:57 AM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - HarleyDog - 07-10-2023, 05:32 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Nately120 - 07-10-2023, 08:01 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - basballguy - 07-14-2023, 06:23 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-14-2023, 05:44 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - hollodero - 07-14-2023, 05:59 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - Luvnit2 - 07-14-2023, 06:25 PM
RE: Cocaine in the West Wing - samhain - 07-14-2023, 10:37 PM

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