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When was America great ?
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(07-09-2023, 02:03 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: Since God is omniscient, He already knew Adam and Eve were going to sin. God created Adam first, and then He created Eve out of Adam’s rib. Not long after God created Adam and Eve, the Fall of Man occurred.

God had told Adam and Eve specifically that they could eat from any fruit of the Garden except the Tree of Knowledge. Through their own temptation and through the temptation of the serpent, Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit.

After Adam and Eve had eaten from the forbidden fruit, they sinned against God by disobeying Him. God had told them directly not to eat from this tree, yet Adam and Eve decided to take matters into their own hands.

The major temptation to eat the forbidden fruit was the serpent’s words, “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil”.

The serpent tells Adam and Eve that if they eat the fruit, they “will be like God.” This is the major appeal to Adam and Eve because they wanted to be their own “god.”

You don't find this to be a rather sadistic and capricious game; in any way? 

God knew they would sin.
He created them anyway.
They did what they were created to do.
God found them guilty of what he knew they would do.
He punishes them even though they only did what they were created to do.

Why is it that God is exempt from blame, given that he purposely created the entire situation?

Quote:Once the Fall of Man occurred, Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden of Eden permanently, and sin entered the world. Due to sin being in the world, we now have pain, illnesses, and death.

God knew all of this ahead of time, but He still chose to create them. This can cause most of us to question why he would still create them. Even though God knew Adam and Eve would sin, He created them for His glory.

His glory? This is a rather disturbing notion. God created a species that he knew he would get to continually punish and kill until he offered conditional forgiveness and the threat of eternal damnation? 

Quote:We, as human beings; our purpose is to know God and to make Him known. We were created to worship, serve, and have a relationship with God.

God gave us free will when He created us, which enabled the possibility of sin. We all are given the free choice to do good or to do evil. God didn’t create us as robots who were programmed to do His will. He chose to give us free will to freely choose to worship, love, and know Him.

As human beings, we often think that our purpose is to serve ourselves or “to be all we can be.” This is an erroneous belief because our purpose is to love, worship, and serve the Lord with our whole hearts, mind, body, and soul.

What being worthy of worship would ever ask for it, or even desire it?

Quote:Even though God knew we would sin and disobey Him, He still loves us. Many of us believe we wouldn’t do the same thing as Adam and Eve, yet all of us would do the same thing.

We all have sinned, and we have all disobeyed God. In fact, any act of sin is disobedience toward God. As the Bible tells us, we all sin and fall short of God.

Why is it that human beings must accept the blame and responsibility for that which God chose to create? Could God have chosen to create a world in which the garden scenario plays out differently? 

Quote:Just as God already knew Adam and Eve were going to sin and disobey Him, He also knew He was going to send His Son to die for the sins of the world. Even though mankind sinned, God still had a plan to save us from ourselves because He loves us.

God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” As this Bible passage tells us, God still loves us despite our sinful nature.

This should be extremely impactful for us as God loved us before we ever loved Him. God sees all of our wickedness, and He still loves us.

Jesus came into the world to save us from our sins. He did this because He loves us and desires a relationship with Him.

God creates a world with sin. 
Then comes in human form to offer a path of forgiveness for the sin he created.
However, he'll only provide salvation to those willing to plead guilty to the crimes he created them to commit.

While God is uniquely complicit for the sin, evil and wickedness in the world; he lays the entire blame at the feet of his creation. 

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When was America great ? - Arturo Bandini - 07-07-2023, 07:33 AM
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RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-07-2023, 05:39 PM
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RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-07-2023, 05:50 PM
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RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-07-2023, 05:41 PM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-07-2023, 05:46 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-07-2023, 06:05 PM
RE: When was America great ? - KillerGoose - 07-08-2023, 12:11 PM
RE: When was America great ? - samhain - 07-08-2023, 01:52 PM
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RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-12-2023, 05:11 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Leon - 07-11-2023, 08:16 PM
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RE: When was America great ? - GMDino - 07-09-2023, 08:13 PM
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RE: When was America great ? - pally - 07-10-2023, 12:52 AM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-10-2023, 09:14 AM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-10-2023, 11:32 AM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-10-2023, 02:28 PM
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RE: When was America great ? - Leon - 07-11-2023, 02:05 PM
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RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-11-2023, 04:27 PM
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