07-09-2023, 08:31 PM
(07-09-2023, 08:15 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: See what's interesting here is I think you have to separate God's "culpability" from the culpability of man. Something God can do that man 100% cannot do is offer salvation from suffering. Mathematically, any suffering we endure is negated by the fact that God offers us salvation which is infinitely more positive than any negatives you will suffer here on earth. Man cannot do this, therefore man would be much more responsible in these types of scenarios than God will ever be, because man cannot offer eternal peace to anyone.
If you believe God exists and his promise of salvation, then any suffering we endure here is actually quite minimal in the grand scheme of things. I understand that people experience terrible things in their life such as rape, murder, disease, war, disaters etc.... but these things are all finite with God. Why should God face repurcussions when he's already offered to take the suffering away, and infiitely so?
Because he knows that, arguably, the majority of humans will not take it. He already knows everything, he is omniscient. For instance, let's say that I design an aircraft with a known flaw. This flaw will cause catastrophic failure resulting in loss of life at some point unless a series of very particular, complicated maintenance items are completed after every flight. Now, me being this engineering genius, knows that there is no way these maintenance items will be completed correctly every time as there aren't enough aircraft mechanics in the industry that are certified to do them. However, I put them into production and they go into service.
When the aircraft inevitably catastrophically fails, is the argument of "I offered the solution to prevent this from happening, look at the mechanic, it's his fault" an acceptable argument to remove any culpability from my side? I knew this would fail, just like god knew that his creations would not take up his offering of salvation. The plan is inherently flawed, but he went on with it anyway. This is why I am skeptical that he is an all-loving god, should he exist. That would strike me as more of an apathetic creator.
