07-10-2023, 12:47 PM
(07-10-2023, 09:21 AM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: What does omniscience and omnipotence have to do with God's intentions? Not stopping them from eating from the Tree is not the same as being unable to stop them from eating from the Tree. Just as knowing they would eat from the Tree is not the same as wanting them to eat from the Tree.
So if God's intent was to not have them eat the fruit, why have it near them? Or why allow the serpent to poison Eve's mind? Or why allow Eve to thus poison Adam's mind? Why even have the tree? Unless his intent was to create Man in order to have Man suffer.
Quote:God is "everywhere" doesn't have to mean he's controlling literally everything that happens. Just because you're a bystander doesn't mean you're directly involved.
So he wants worshipped for doing **** all? I mean at least Apollo pulled the Sun across the sky. God apparently said "this is a fun ant farm, I can't wait for it to burn itself down" and started playing XBox.
Quote:Perhaps.
But the point stands that if God were to reveal himself it doesn't automatically mean everyone would follow him or that even if they did that they would be able to sustain their worship of him.
So the alternative he provides is vague promises of salvation if you follow his (often contradicting) set of rules and worship without question, while also exercising free will with all of human's innate flaws?
Yeah, no. Those are the actions of a benevolent being.
Our father, who art in Hell
Unhallowed, be thy name
Cursed be thy sons and daughters
Of our nemesis who are to blame
Thy kingdom come, Nema
Unhallowed, be thy name
Cursed be thy sons and daughters
Of our nemesis who are to blame
Thy kingdom come, Nema
