When was America great ?

[BengalYankee]

(07-09-2023, 02:46 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I find this part unsettling. We are supposed to worship a god who is omniscient and knew that his creations would sin and introduce unfathomable amounts of pain, suffering, and death, but he decided to create us nonetheless for his own glory. His own vanity, so to speak. This is something that I have trouble reconciling.

Hi KillerGoose,

I am not going to twist myself in a puzzle to give you an answer, because I just don't know. Many religious "folks"[Pastors, Priests, Rabii's, etc] will spew their own comments. But again, I won't state I know the answer when I don't. 

What I do know is that you have to have Faith. I have Faith in God and his plans. I don't understand all his plans and in some cases I don't agree with some  of his  plans, but even as a small child, his parents know best for him, like don't put your hand on the stove. A small child will want to put his hand on a stove, but woe the child when he does and it is hot.

Just like I said I don't understand God's "knowing" man would sin, let me ask you a set of questions.

1. If you went into space whether you were Superman or realistically in a spaceship and you went straight any direction in this case west. Time, fuel, food are not an issue, you just went one direction west, do you go forever in eternity? Do you eventually hit a wall? Do you eventually circle back to Earth?

Which brings me to the next question.

2. Since you don't believe in God when was the beginning of time? I assume you will say the Big Bang Theory? That is an explanation for this Universe, but what about the other multitudes of Universes? What preceded the Big Bang Theory? Nothing?

Something produced by nothing from nothing would, logically, have had to create itself. But if it created itself, it would have had to exist prior to its own creation, which means it must both exist and not exist at the same time and in the same way—an obvious contradiction and an utterly illogical conclusion. When the laws of logic are violated like this, reason and communication become meaningless.

In my humble opinion in the beginning there was always God. 

Try to wrap around yourself and believe that. If not and you still believe in the Big Bang Theory, surely there was something before the Big Bang Theory and we do have multiple Universes[Multiverse]. See Marvel and DC[The Flash] movies for reference. 

Try to explain #1 and #2 for me. I don't know, just like I don't know God's plans. For example, I don't know the end of time nor did Jesus.  Jesus said, “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father” (Matthew 24:36; cf. Mark 13:32).  

So when you ask a person, why did God do this or that know that you might not be getting the right answer.