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When was America great ?
(07-11-2023, 07:07 AM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: If a father leaves an open bottle of alcohal on the table and his son or daughter drinks it even after the father told them not to, does that mean the intent was to have them drink the alcohal?

Does the father beat the child mercilessly for doing so? Or does he admit his mistake and do better going foward. One father deserves praise for taking it on himself, the other scoffed at for blaming others for his lack of foresight.

But both of those fathers aren't omniscient deities, so the comparisons don't measure up.

Quote:I'm not really sure how else to say it. God offered us salvation which negates any finite suffering we experience here on earth. I wouldnt call that "doing nothing".

"Suffer a lifetime of pain for a slim chance at eternal paradise maybe if I actually exist. Also, the price abd rules for entrqnce are ridiculous contradictions" sounds like a carrot tied to your head just out of arm's reach. So maybe nothing is too strong a word here. Bare minimum, at best.

Quote:The alternative he provides is the thing we seek everyday, yet cannot fulfill ourselves. Yet we would rather have sin over that. Why?

With no evidence of an afterlife aside from what folks who have died and come back to say (which is a lot of contradicting stuff and can be traced back to the massive influx of chemicals the brain releases on death), all we as people can do is see the misery in the world. Some folks see it and say 'there has to be a plan' - faith. Others see it and say 'the universe is chaos' - logic.

Whatever let's you make it through the day is all that really matters. 
Our father, who art in Hell
Unhallowed, be thy name
Cursed be thy sons and daughters
Of our nemesis who are to blame
Thy kingdom come, Nema
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When was America great ? - Arturo Bandini - 07-07-2023, 07:33 AM
RE: When was America great ? - Luvnit2 - 07-07-2023, 09:25 AM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-07-2023, 03:54 PM
RE: When was America great ? - KillerGoose - 07-07-2023, 09:49 AM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-07-2023, 10:19 AM
RE: When was America great ? - samhain - 07-07-2023, 05:15 PM
RE: When was America great ? - GMDino - 07-07-2023, 09:54 AM
RE: When was America great ? - Dill - 07-07-2023, 11:54 AM
RE: When was America great ? - CKwi88 - 07-07-2023, 12:54 PM
RE: When was America great ? - hollodero - 07-07-2023, 03:15 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-07-2023, 04:35 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-07-2023, 05:25 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Nately120 - 07-07-2023, 05:27 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-07-2023, 06:24 PM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-08-2023, 02:42 AM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-07-2023, 05:31 PM
RE: When was America great ? - hollodero - 07-07-2023, 05:36 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Nately120 - 07-07-2023, 05:36 PM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-07-2023, 05:39 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Nately120 - 07-07-2023, 05:43 PM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-07-2023, 05:50 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Nately120 - 07-07-2023, 05:56 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-07-2023, 05:41 PM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-07-2023, 05:46 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-07-2023, 06:05 PM
RE: When was America great ? - KillerGoose - 07-08-2023, 12:11 PM
RE: When was America great ? - samhain - 07-08-2023, 01:52 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-08-2023, 03:12 PM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-09-2023, 02:10 AM
RE: When was America great ? - KillerGoose - 07-09-2023, 10:35 AM
RE: When was America great ? - KillerGoose - 07-09-2023, 02:46 PM
RE: When was America great ? - KillerGoose - 07-10-2023, 01:36 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-09-2023, 03:28 PM
RE: When was America great ? - KillerGoose - 07-09-2023, 07:27 PM
RE: When was America great ? - KillerGoose - 07-09-2023, 08:31 PM
RE: When was America great ? - samhain - 07-09-2023, 09:49 PM
RE: When was America great ? - samhain - 07-09-2023, 11:00 PM
RE: When was America great ? - samhain - 07-12-2023, 05:58 PM
RE: When was America great ? - KillerGoose - 07-10-2023, 10:34 AM
RE: When was America great ? - michaelsean - 07-10-2023, 03:34 PM
RE: When was America great ? - KillerGoose - 07-10-2023, 04:06 PM
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RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-09-2023, 08:23 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-09-2023, 11:34 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Leon - 07-11-2023, 07:45 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-09-2023, 02:24 PM
RE: When was America great ? - GMDino - 07-09-2023, 02:51 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-09-2023, 03:41 PM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-09-2023, 06:01 PM
RE: When was America great ? - basballguy - 07-07-2023, 03:50 PM
RE: When was America great ? - samhain - 07-07-2023, 10:45 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Nately120 - 07-08-2023, 10:18 AM
RE: When was America great ? - Nately120 - 07-07-2023, 05:22 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Millhouse - 07-07-2023, 04:44 PM
RE: When was America great ? - michaelsean - 07-07-2023, 09:11 PM
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RE: When was America great ? - GMDino - 07-08-2023, 11:31 AM
RE: When was America great ? - pally - 07-08-2023, 12:04 PM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-09-2023, 02:14 AM
RE: When was America great ? - pally - 07-09-2023, 02:43 AM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-09-2023, 02:09 PM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-09-2023, 09:01 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-09-2023, 11:57 PM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-10-2023, 06:38 AM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-10-2023, 12:47 PM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-11-2023, 10:23 AM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-11-2023, 01:52 PM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-11-2023, 09:08 PM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-12-2023, 05:11 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Leon - 07-11-2023, 08:16 PM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-11-2023, 09:11 PM
RE: When was America great ? - GMDino - 07-09-2023, 08:13 PM
RE: When was America great ? - GMDino - 07-09-2023, 08:39 PM
RE: When was America great ? - pally - 07-10-2023, 12:52 AM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-10-2023, 09:14 AM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-10-2023, 11:32 AM
RE: When was America great ? - Lucidus - 07-10-2023, 02:28 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Millhouse - 07-10-2023, 03:14 PM
RE: When was America great ? - GMDino - 07-10-2023, 02:03 PM
RE: When was America great ? - GMDino - 07-10-2023, 09:17 PM
RE: When was America great ? - pally - 07-11-2023, 09:22 AM
RE: When was America great ? - GMDino - 07-11-2023, 10:20 AM
RE: When was America great ? - Leon - 07-11-2023, 02:05 PM
RE: When was America great ? - pally - 07-11-2023, 02:10 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Leon - 07-11-2023, 02:32 PM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-11-2023, 04:02 PM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-11-2023, 04:27 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Leon - 07-11-2023, 06:00 PM
RE: When was America great ? - pally - 07-11-2023, 06:06 PM
RE: When was America great ? - Leon - 07-11-2023, 06:11 PM
RE: When was America great ? - pally - 07-11-2023, 06:31 PM
RE: When was America great ? - BigPapaKain - 07-11-2023, 09:12 PM
RE: When was America great ? - GMDino - 07-12-2023, 09:00 AM
RE: When was America great ? - Millhouse - 07-12-2023, 01:18 PM
RE: When was America great ? - HarleyDog - 07-13-2023, 09:29 AM
RE: When was America great ? - GMDino - 07-13-2023, 09:53 AM
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