08-13-2023, 01:38 PM
(08-13-2023, 01:04 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: Sorry to be Debbie Downer, but I don't trust ZT yet. I think all the glory has to go to Joe Burrow. What is ZT's record without Burrow? Horrible that is what it is.
I will give credit to the Defense as well.
We found out last year we could win without Chase, but we can't win without Burrow.
ML was handcuffed by Mike Brown, I remember ML stated that Chris Henry was off the team and later had to recant because Mike Brown wanted him on the team.
I'm 100% okay with not trusting Taylor yet. I do for the most part, but I get it. That said, using Taylor's record without Burrow is kinda silly.
Taylor was most definitely part of a rebuild, and the roster was not only full of washed up players, it wasn't shaped to Taylor's vision. It was shaped to Marvin's.
I AM NOT SAYING TAYLOR IS BELICHICK. That said, when distributing credit, I think we can learn from Belichick without Brady.
Belichick is a great coach. The Pats without him right now would probably be competing for the #1 overall pick. With him, they're usually in the 8-8 range. With Brady, they're a SB contender.
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I'd say our roster is better than New England's (Zac has something to do with that), but Zac is a worse X and O guy than Bill. It evens out. If we swapped Joe Burrow for Mac Jones, I still think this is an 8-8 team due to the roster quality and Taylor being a decent coach.
Joe is why this team is competing for Super Bowls, but to suggest that this team would be a 2-4 win team without Joe is giving too much credit to Joe and not enough to the roster and Zac.
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