08-13-2023, 01:54 PM
(08-08-2023, 08:57 PM)basballguy Wrote: It's hard to argue this without sounding like a hater so I'll say this.....in the moment, I thought ML was great for Bengals culture. After several years of reflection (post ML), he was part of the problem. He didn't change the culture, he was just a better coach than we were used to. the Bengals were still seen as "that team" that nobody wanted to play for.
I was a huge ZT hater early on but I sincerely think what ZT (and Bengals leadership) have done for the franchise is legit great for the culture. ML was just a change of pace. He should've been fired at the same time we dumped CP....which mostly echos your last statement.
Agree with everything here
I do think I overlook the effect of Katie taking control of the team. I don't pretend to know what went on between ML and MB. I know they had a great relationship but I also remember how stubborn MB seemed to be.
Katie hired Marvin, not Mike.
