08-14-2023, 03:25 PM
(08-14-2023, 01:41 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Doing good! Hopefully you are as well.
You didn't specifically say the Bengals would be a 4 win team, but I was inferring that based on you saying "I think all the glory has to go to Joe Burrow. What is ZT's record without Burrow? Horrible that is what it is."
Taylor's record without Burrow is obviously way worse than just 4-12.
The roster has wildly improved since Taylor didn't have Burrow, so I'd say it's tough to use that as evidence.
It's also tough to compare Marvin and Zac, as they may have used a very similar roster (end of Marvin's tenure and beginning of Zac's), but Zac was using Marvin's players. Players that were better for Marv's vision.
I think if we traded Burrow for an average starter (say Jared Goff or Derek Carr), I think this team is around 8-8 and at least competing for a playoff spot. Those guys would have their play elevated with the best WR corp in the NFL and a top notch defense. I think we sell this roster short.
Look at it this way. Do you think our roster is better than the 2021 Raiders or 2022 Lions? Well, those were winning teams with those average QB's.
You know this is not fair. Andy Dalton had a way better roster for most of his career with Marvin, and Dalton lost a pinch after a few years of getting pummeled behind bad lines. Not everyone handles sacks like Burrow.
If Mike Brown hadn’t been a stubborn fool and refused to make the changes the team has made during Katie’s tenure to become competitive they wouldn’t have needed to draft Dalton (or stick with him when it was clear his ceiling was middling NFL starter.)
