08-15-2023, 02:05 PM
(08-15-2023, 12:37 PM)ochocincos Wrote: It's pretty easy to assume Kay meant model organization from a record/championships standpoint.
Yes, Ravens and Steelers have had some players with questionable character, just like the Bengals.
But in regard to franchise winning percentage and number of championships...
Ravens - 2 Super Bowl wins, .561 franchise record (3rd highest in the NFL)
Steelers - 6 Super Bowl wins, .536 franchise record (10th highest in the NFL)
Playoff record specifically:
Ravens and Steelers - .571 (tied for 4th best)
I'm not defending Kay, just speculating what she was basing her vague statement off of, as everyone has their own subjective opinion of "model franchise."
The Bengals never had a murderer or rapist be the face of the franchise.
I get what you're saying but I'd destroy her in a debate about this.