This is the Worst Free Agency I've Ever Seen since Burrow was Drafted.

[Mike M (the other one)]

(08-15-2023, 06:54 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Coughlin made the jags into one of the best teams in the entire league when he was there, including an afc championship appearance. And then you all know what he did with NYG

Lewis isnt bad per se, but Coughlin is leaps and bounds better than Lewis. Yes, leaps and bounds. Playoffs matter

He took one of the two expansion teams that was given a solid roster to begin with. Carolina made the super bowl during that time as well.
What he did with the Giants can't be factored into the decision that was made at that time.

Need i remind people that he was not the HC of Jax those few years prior to being interviewed by the Bengals for the HC position. HC was Doug Marrone.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/12/18/jaguars-top-executive-tom-coughlin-fired/2053894007/

Jaguars owner Shad Khan fired Tom Coughlin on Wednesday night, two days after the NFL Players Association sent a letter to the league’s players that revealed over 25 percent of the grievances filed by players have been against the Jaguars.

(08-15-2023, 10:11 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: .....but that wasn't the case. Marvin may have been her choice (that's not set in stone either), but he was the choice because Coughlin turned down the offer.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/columns/pasquarelli_len/1486759.html

"One potential sticking point is that, unlike his Jacksonville job description, Coughlin would not have total control of the Bengals' football operation. Coughlin essentially functioned as his own general manager while with the Jaguars, but the Bengals do not have a GM and Brown has said he will not vest total power in one man.

It is believed, however, the Bengals are prepared to provide their new head coach more power than any of his predecessors.

Asked if the lack of a general manager's title might affect how he views the Cincinnati opening, Coughlin said: "I'd have to think about that for a while.""

(08-15-2023, 10:49 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: Coughlin was interviewed, I do know that. He withdrew his name from what I recall. He wanted be the HC and GM. Mike wasn't having that.

Well no idea if what you remember is right or wrong vs what i remember. so we'll just leave it at that.

But the Bengals were right in having some reservations about giving him control but not the type we would likely think. If you see the first half of the post you'll see that TC was not a very player friendly person. In fact any team would have been a little worried about giving him too much control. I don't think the Giants gave him that type of control either did they?