Reds August 2023 thread

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(08-16-2023, 01:18 PM)kevin Wrote: OK, for all you Bad News people.  Hunter Greene pitched 5.2 strong innings for Louisville Bats Tuesday night.  So he has gone 2 inning, 4 innings and now 5.2 innings, just like Spring Training.  Reds have Ashcraft and Abbott slated to pitch Monday and Tuesday, but nobody slated to pitch Sunday.  So expect Hunter Greene on the mound Sunday in Cincinnati against Toronto.

I say Hunter Greene back on the mound Sunday is Good News.  

As for you people griping about Bell, he had the Reds around 1st place Memorial Day and 4th of July and Reds filled the stands and made much needed money.  Reds played a million times better than last year, and better than anybody expected.  

Instead of blaming Bell, you people could be blaming The Moose and The Votto Contracts that still killed the Reds on payroll in 2023.  But you don't want to do that because you all have a man crush for Votto.  

So to your Bad News, I add Good News.  Hunter Greene will be back Sunday and Ashcraft is back.  They will get Lodolo and India back.  Reds will be out from under the huge Moose and Votto contracts in a couple months.  Reds will have money from first good attendance since before no fans covid.  So Reds ARE getting players healthy and Reds ARE going to be better on money going into off season.  And Bell DID do a great job of managing a last place team with money problems into 1st Place during Summer Holidays to fill Great American Ball Park and make Reds some MONEY and give FANS some good times this Summer.  

I see more Good News on this team than Bad News.  I told you people all along that if you thought the 2023 Reds were going World Series, you were crazy.  Not that I didn't want to see it, but Reds are building for The Future.  Like the 1980's Reds of Davis and Larkin and Browning who were being molded into the 1990 Championship,  these young players like De La Cruz are being groomed for Championships like the 1980's Reds for 1990.  

Anyway, Hunter Greene will be back, probably will pitch Sunday and Ashcraft Monday or Tuesday, so those 2 star pitchers back. GOOD NEWS.

I wasn't sure about Bell, but he should be up for manager of the year turning Reds around.   I also said to give Coach Taylor more time when everybody wanted him fired.  I said you can't  expect miracles in his first 2 seasons, it takes longer to rebuild how awful the Bengals were when Coach Lewis and all the coaches fired.  Some on this site came back and said I was right about giving Coach Taylor more than 2 seasons.  You can't just look at today, you have to look at the future. You can't change coaches and quarterbacks every year like the Cleveland Browns, because constant change of leadership never puts down the roots to grow and Win. I remember early on Reds Fans saying Sparky Anderson was an idiot and needed fired.  Fans are not always the best judges of who needs fired, because Fan is short for Fanatic.  So I'll bet my pickle, that Fans sure are fickle, says Popeye The Sailor Man.

I don't think anyone is saying Greene doesn't improve the rotation.
I think those not being optimistic are thinking with the way the bats and bullpen have been the past month, better starting pitching may not get the Reds back where they need to be with just 41 games left in the season.
Lodolo doesn't come back for at least another week, if not more, and he might not pitch well out of the gate.
And even if/when Greene and Lodolo come back and pitch well, that doesn't necessarily mean the bullpen will be good again.

I wouldn't say the fans are fickle, as that means characterized by erratic changeableness or instability. Fans are merely reacting to the trend the team is exhibiting in recent weeks. If the team is doing well, the fans will be optimistic. If the team is struggling, fans will be worried. That's the nature of sports fandom. It's not fickleness.