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Are sanctuary cities really sanctuary cities?
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(08-18-2023, 02:32 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, that is true about SO many things.

Very true, rather naïve of me to actually say it.



Quote:I have been mulling this over. My first instinct is that it would be hindering to prohibit detainment on the street outside of the jail, but inside is not at the active hinderance stage. The difference there being public access. However, a court building is also a public building so it gets a bit sticky. I think I will stick with my initial gut reaction.

Then I can tell you almost all of CA is actively hindering federal law enforcement.


Quote:Not quite the same, at least not in every state. So, states are independent of the federal government. The federal government may have the supremacy in the law but the states are not creatures of the federal government, meaning the states actually created the federal government and their authority does not stem from them.

However, in most states, my Commonwealth of Virginia being one of them, there is something called Dillon's Rule. Dillon is the principle that municipalities are creatures of the state and their authority stems from them, therefore their authority only extends to the point at which the state government explicitly lays out.

Now, Dillon's Rule applies to 39 states in some way or another, California included. Some of them have different levels of independence from the state government. For instance, in California about 25% of the cities are what they call charter cities, which have more independence from the state than the other cities have.

So, while states have the freedom to have and enforce whatever laws they wish so long as they do not step on the toes of or conflict with the feds, cities in most states do not enjoy those same freedoms with how their authority is set up based on the constitutions of their states.

I did not know that, very interesting.  This rather makes a solid argument for keeping the Electoral College, does it not?  Also, does it only apply to 39 states because the other eleven didn't adopt it?

Quote:I could get much more in the weeds on this because it is kind of in my wheelhouse as a public administration guy, but I would bore everyone to tears.

What you just shared was very interesting information that I'm sure many people here were not aware of.  You might be surprised.
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RE: Are sanctuary cities really sanctuary cities? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-18-2023, 02:48 PM

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