08-23-2023, 03:30 PM
(08-23-2023, 12:24 PM)basballguy Wrote: I think if you're going to say this behavior is happening (especially in terms of dishonesty and inflammatory comments) you should give some specific examples....maybe a running thread of "here's what not to do or say and why"....you can start with me if you want
I don't think there's a single person in this forum that posts dishonest information. I do think there is a huge segment of posters that talk out of their ass trying to pass off anecdotal experiences as fact. In that sense those individuals could probably come off as being dishonest but I doubt there's negative intentions behind it.
When I mention dishonesty, I'm referring to a pattern I've noticed of members misrepresenting what others are saying, putting words in their mouths that they never said and accusing them of holding positions they never said they hold...usually to help their own argument. It's a dishonest approach, that sends a discussion down the crapper very quickly.
In terms of the inflammatory, I'm talking about the amount of insults, name calling and personal attacks I've come across. Again, this is not only against the rules, but also makes the conversation about the members involved, instead of the topic at hand.
Quote:So we're now "dinging" people for what they say about public figures? I feel like that would get every user of this forum banned based on what they've said about Biden and Trump over the years.
Moderating what people say about public figures is a dangerously slippery slope if you are an advocate for independent conversation like you imply here.
Moderating users based on what they say about public figures is an awful idea and will not allow for neutral moderation. If done correctly, every user on this forum would be banned within a week for shit they say about DJT and JB alone.
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This is a useful example of why making sure you understand what the person you're responding to actually said is important, and not asking for clarification could lead to misinterpreting them...and not arguing the actual point they made.
In this case, Yankee asked me about how to refer to celebrity transgender people, and I gave him an answer. You took that and expanded it to public figures in general, which was not the topic. Instead of asking a question, you assumed something that was never talked about. Do you see the issue there...and how it can lead to a conversation going off the rails?
Quote:Personally, the tone of this thread seems focused on going after conservative posters.
The focus is on improving behavior and interactions...so that P&R will remain a place for liberals AND conservatives to hang out and talk politics. It would die off pretty quickly IMO, if it ever became a place for just one side or the other.
