08-24-2023, 01:07 PM
(08-24-2023, 11:55 AM)hollodero Wrote: This is difficult terrain. But for one, I do think you're slightly exaggerating the alleged unamerican hellhole liberal rule produces. I get California as example, but imho, it doesn't really play out that way on a national level. But I am aware you see that quite differently, but overall, I consider the Biden administration to be fairly moderate.
I think Biden tends moderate, I don't know that his administration does. For example, they have the ATF absolutely abusing their power to shut done FFL's (licensed gun dealers) at a rate never before seen.
https://archive.li/dfVlZ
As for the law and order, it may not be a problem nationally, but it damn sure is in deep blue areas. And people watch the news and they see exactly what's going on here, and places like here, and they don't want it coming to where they live.
Quote:But even if that isn't so for many. I can not take this as wholesome explanation for Trump. Any republican president would serve as a counter to liberal policies, all of them that debated yesterday, it would not take Trump to do so. Trump is the rhetorical extreme, that's what's appealing, and his anti-liberal positions reach far beyond reality and straight into hostility and demonization. To me, he appeals to the worst, irrational instincts in what he paints as an ideological civil war, and that does not go away. It has little to do with rationality.
I can't argue with any of this, but he's in the position he's in. I think there was a time that we could have moved past Trump, and I legitimately thought we would, but that time has passed.
Quote:Which btw. is not a shot against those that eventually would vote for him over Biden. There I can see your point more clearly, he might appear as the better choice for conservaitive leaning folks. But when it comes to him leading distinctly in the primaries, that to me is something else.
A good point. But I don't see any of the current GOP candidates as being able to unseat Trump. DeSantis had the best chance initially, but his campaign has not been run well, at all. A few of them have definitely set themselves up for future success; Tim Scott and Vivek for example. But no one is going to unseat Trump at this point. Not to get back on this topic again, but all the indictments absolutely sealed the deal for Trump. Like it or not a considerable number of people see this as a political witch hunt and a gross abuse of the criminal justice system. The people who think that way, and they were sadly given major ammunition by Bragg, literally see this as a fight for the nation.
