Question For People That Believe Men Can Be Women

[Mike M (the other one)]

(08-26-2023, 03:54 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Concussions are very common in Volleyball, what you are ignoring is the SPEED that it traveled.

Kim Yeon-koung, a South Korean volleyball player, holds the record for the fastest recorded spike speed at 77 miles per hour (124 kilometers per hour). She was in her mid-20's when she did this at the 2012 Olympics.

The HS Aged Trans-girl that you are talking about that also spiked it and was recorded at a speed of about 70 mph. The avg Male's Spike speed is between 70-80 mph.

The average kill speed for a high school volleyball player is around 40-50 mph. Players at this level typically haven't developed the skill set to spike faster yet.

(08-26-2023, 05:36 PM)Lucidus Wrote: Are you aware of any scientific studies stating that transgender men have an unfair advantage in women's volleyball? If it's indeed common knowledge, then there should be adequate research and studies for us to consider pertaining to your claim.

Is there a reason why you ignored what i posted in relations to the speed of the ball in Volley ball when comparing men vs women?


Just because there is no DIRECT studies, doesn't mean that there isn't an advantage. What we already know is that Men and Women's bodies are not the same. Bone Structure, Muscle development and BMI, heart and lung capacity are not the same.

This is a study that was done simply on grip strength, showing how even after HT's, and a decrease in grip strength that trans women were still on the 95% percentile vs biological women on grip strength.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6652261/




The largest decrease in grip strength for transwomen took place in the last 3 months of HT, while the largest change for transmen took place in the first 3 months. The change in transmen is in line with a randomized controlled trial that shows an increase in strength in the first 6 months, after the use of testosterone in healthy men ≥60 years old (17). Interestingly, the time difference of the slow loss of grip strength in transwomen and the fast increase in transmen is opposite of what is observed for strength with training and detraining. It might possibly take longer for muscles to decrease in proteins due to lack of testosterone, than it is to increase due to administration of testosterone. However, to fully understand the difference, more research is necessary. After 12 months, the median grip strength of transwomen still falls into the 95th percentile for age-matched females. The median grip strength of transmen after 12 months falls into the 25th percentile of age-matched males (18). Thus, transwomen are still stronger than average females and transmen are still weaker than average males. 





Can you provide information showing that there is no advantage for Trans Women over Biological females (in volleyball of course)?