08-30-2023, 11:30 AM
(08-30-2023, 06:17 AM)pally Wrote: The writings of the Nashville shooter have not been made public because ownership of the papers was transferred to the families of The Covenent School back in June. They are seeking to keep them private. News organizations have appealed that ruling which is still in progress. I suspect the appeal will result in victory for the news folks.
How convenient. Who knew that public record could be privatized?
(08-30-2023, 06:33 AM)pally Wrote: Right, because the only 2 counties that would even consider a land attack on the US are terrified of people with guns. First of all it is not 1941 anymore. No one, with todays technology, can get close to the US with a large attack force without us knowing about it well in advance. And if by chance they could, they would be far more concerned with a large sitting military with the most sophisticated weapons in the world than some dude with a gun.
We cannot ignore a very well financed well orchestrated long term campaign by the gun manufacturers, gun lobbyists, NRA, and right wing politicians to use fear of one’s neighbors to push gun ownership in this country. The first 200 years of this country the phrase “well regulated militia” was the operative thought in the 2nd amendment. The last 45 years it’s been “shall not be infringed”. That’s not by accident.
Perhaps you'd like to provide us with some evidence of said "very well financed well orchestrated long term campaign by the gun manufacturers, gun lobbyists, NRA, and right wing politicians to use fear of one’s neighbors to push gun ownership in this country", because I've never seen it. Maybe as a gun owner since an early age they skipped targeting me with this campaign.
(08-30-2023, 09:09 AM)HarleyDog Wrote: Not terrified, but definitely a deterrent. I will never think we are untouchable. Personally, I don't own a firearm. However, of the 20 houses on my block, I would wager 15 have guns under their roof. Also, as has been mentioned, it's a great deterrent against our own government. People have the right not to own a firearm and put their faith and trust in a government that only says they care about them, which some people do. Yet I will not take my freedom for granted by giving up my rights, or anyone else's right to own one.
Anyone who thinks an armed populace has zero chance against a modern military need only look at Afghanistan for an example in the last few years. Gun control folks are big on talking points and rhetoric and very low on actual knowledge and facts. It's why they repeat obvious and blatant lies like "guns are the #1 killer of children" when it's not even close to true. If you have to lie, repeatedly, to try and make your argument then you're not making a very good one and your motives must certainly be called into question.
