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Why is life expectancy way lower in the US than the other civilized countries
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(09-01-2023, 12:59 PM)GMDino Wrote: Meth in the US is mostly a US thing.  Made and sold here.  Other countries make it but it isn't exported as much as other drugs.

Crack is funneled from South America.  Well, at least the cocaine is.

Fentanyl is mainly from China and comes in through the western border (CA/Canada) and through Mexico.

Of course the US had a "war on drugs".

Here's a good read on it.  

And why a war on drugs?  Hint: It wasn't because of the drugs.

Meth is made in massive quantities by the Mexican cartels.

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/21/1066163872/mexican-cartels-turning-to-meth-and-fentanyl-production

I could cite exact numbers but they come from LEO only sources that I'm certainly not posting here.  The reason is simple, in Mexico they can set up huge Breaking Bad style facilities and churn it out with impunity.  Meth labs in the US are mostly small scale affairs, albeit in large numbers.  Most of the fentanyl we seize is made in Mexico, for the exact same reasons.  It is far cheaper and easier to manufacture it there, where local law enforcement is bought and paid for, then to ship it in from China.  There's also far less chance of it being seized en route.  China used to make most of it, that hasn't been the case for a long time.  They are also now making carfentanil, which is even more potent.

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Basically if they can make money on it, the cartels will make it.

Lastly, your "source" on the war on drugs is insanely biased.  Even if we totally concede this as the genesis of the action, it makes zero difference in regard to today's efforts to stop the illegal drug trade.  Or is your point that we should legalize all of it?  It's certainly working wonders in Oregon.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2023/07/oregon-drug-decriminalization-results-overdoses/674733/

Early results of this reform effort, the first of its kind in any state, are now coming into view, and so far, they are not encouraging. State leaders have acknowledged faults with the policy’s implementation and enforcement measures. And Oregon’s drug problems have not improved. Last year, the state experienced one of the sharpest rises in overdose deaths in the nation and had one of the highest percentages of adults with a substance-use disorder. During one two-week period last month, three children under the age of 4 overdosed in Portland after ingesting fentanyl.
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RE: Why is life expectancy way lower in the US than the other civilized countries - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 09-01-2023, 01:51 PM

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