09-08-2023, 06:52 PM
(09-04-2023, 10:49 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Ok everyone and their mother knows Russia had a political campaign strike going.
They've made it very clear and as to why they don't like Hillary, they were going to do anything to keep her from winning. The opponent didn't matter.
Even Mueller couldn't find collusion from anyone in the Trump campaign that conspired or coordinated in any way with Russia despite multiple attempts from Russian-affiliated individuals.
As far as Manafort goes, if what he did was so egregious, then why wasn't he convicted on it? Instead was convicted of Tax and Bank fraud not collusion so what he did likely wouldn't have held up else they would have added that on as well.
Putin hated Hillary for his ego, but Trump was the last person he wanted to be president of the US. It did nothing but hurt Russia. One of the things Trump ran on was energy independence for the US. He also told Europe to not be dependent on Russian oil (ask Germany how that’s going for them, now). People on the left and MSM read too much into Trump’s rhetoric on the surface regarding Russia, and paid no attention to what he actually did. He didn’t only want energy independence for the US, and for Europe (that is, independence from Russia), but he also put countless sanctions on Russia, shut down Russian embassies, expelled diplomats, publicly called them out for when they tried to kill that spy in the UK, and put sanctions on them in his first month of office for annexing Crimea, which Obama happily allowed.
Russia was doing a victory dance on the first day Biden was in office and shut down the Keystone pipeline. They want democrats in office. Russia doesn’t have to spread propaganda about pipelines through social media posts when a Democrat is in office. Just look at the protests for the Dakota Access Pipeline, how it was “built over Native American sacred grounds” and then look where it was actually built (about 100 miles south). That was Russian misinformation to rile up a bunch of environmental “useful idiots” who protested, and never took 5 minutes to research that it was actually being built 100 miles south of sacred land.
