09-10-2023, 10:27 AM
(09-10-2023, 10:06 AM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Yes, that is what I meant. I was responding to the comments about people being here illegally for decades and also what if they were children. I was saying that we don't forgive poeple who rob a bank or murder just because a certain amount of time has passed.
Well, you can take all your anger back because I wasn't comparing illegal aliens crossing the border to murderers and/or bank robbers. Those were just the first things that came to my when talking about how we don't ignore crimes just because of the passage of time. I was not saying illegal aliens are equivelent to murderers and bank robbers.
You know, when Trump tried to offer up amnesty in return for actual real effective border policy changes and enforcement Iwas actually all for it. Unfortunately, and I can't remmeber which side or could have been both sides, rejected that proposal.
I am also 100% for legal, checked immigration. I welcoime any foreigner who wants to enter the USA and become a citizen the correct way and be a productive member of society.
I actually have no problem with pretty much anyone frfom anywhere. Black, white, hispanic, asian, etc, etc, etc. What I do have aproblem with is people thinking they just have a right to flood into the usa illegally. That's where my feelz get turned off. This may sound harsh, but their circumstances in their home country is not my problem and does not give them the right to illegally enter the USA.
I will also say something about Samhain calling me an internet tough guy and keytboard warrior, etc or whatever he said. I did not call anyone here any names. I questioned the intelligence of the nyc mayor Eric Adams. He supports a sanctuary city and says all are welcome. He obviously doesn't have the inteligence to think big picture. Now his sanctuary city of nyc is becoming overrun with illegals and he is begging for federal aid and literally saying that illegals are "going to destroy nyc". He refuses to acknowledge or can't comprehend what the actual root causes are. So ya, he obviously lacks self awareness and intelligence. That's not being a tough guy, that's just pointing out facts. I also bring this up because of your comment about the states not really having to spend crap loads on illegal immigration. Here is a quote from Adams himself: “If we don’t get the support we need, New Yorkers could be left with a $12 billion bill,” Mr. Adams said in a speech from City Hall. “While New York City will continue to lead, it’s time the state and federal government step up.” And the link to the very left leaning ny times article the quote came from. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/09/nyregion/adams-nyc-migrants-cost.html
Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of the usa billions upon billions every year. It's bs and a core function of our fed gov't is to secure opur borders and protect our country. At this point i truly believe that the left is doing this on purpose with hopes of a massive voter influx as their radical policies can't make it through real legislation. One of the reasons, imo, they are so upset about having a SCOTUS that follows the constitution. Look at the NM gov who literally just ignored her oath and constitution and temp banned guns. We have elected officials now flagrantly and purposefully violating their oath and the constitution to push their insane Regressive ideology/agenda.
None of the rich elite want illegals either. It's all virtuo signaling. Marthas Vinyard couldn't house and get jobs for 50 illegals? They declared a "humanitarian crisis" for 50 people. My God. *facepalm* lmao!! I mean, cmon man. These are super rich people with tons of room to shelter 50 poeple. Nope. They scream crisis over 50 people and get rid of them quick. Let me know the next rich, famous, elite people that advocate for illegals to be sent to their neighborhood. It won't and doesn't happen. They allow it and advocate for it, but don't want anything to do with it unless those illegals are their workers or servants. It's for the rest of us peasants to deal with.
Anyway, have a good day and Who-Dey!!!!!!!
This is more bullshit. The "rich elite" absolutely want illegals. Just not the media coastal rich elite that the right likes to trot out as the evil overlords. The actual rich elite, ie people who own means of production both national and international, can not get enough of cheap labor. They love seeing anything drive down wages and insure a constant source of manpower free of legal accountability.
The reality is, although they may not know it, the street level white nationalist MAGA drones love illegals, too. They just don't realize it. Let all of these jobs occupied by alleged civilization-destroying Latin Americans go unoccupied. Go ahead and mandate that these jobs be filled by Americans at a fair wage/salary with benefits. Go ahead and make ag companies send American labor into fields to harvest crops. Let them shell out to attract Americans to build decks and put roofs on houses in 92 degree summer heat for days on end. Let little Johnny get off of his PS5 for an afternoon to trim the tree with branches hanging over your roof for the price that comes to pay that fair wage to the homegrown worker.
The MAGA faithful will be bitching up a storm about prices going up faster than you can say "It was Soros all along". Hell they already clutch pearls when anyone suggests a minimum wage increase, citing the impact it will have on the costs of goods and services. Take that theory and multiply it by a hundred or so.
As Trump said in 2016 during his first campaign, "You make too much money.". The corporate elite in this country have alway believed this. They may support MAGA stupidity to get the anti-immigrant crowd riled up at rallies and get the tax cuts flowing , but it's all a means of duping the mob. There's no way they want to stop illegal immigration, and there's not really anything they can do to effectively curb it anyway.
Blaming the poorest of the poor who have no political power whatsoever makes a political position look weak. I can't believe people still flock to anti-immigrant rhetoric like trained dogs every time some far-right clown opens his mouth.
