09-17-2023, 09:15 PM
(09-14-2023, 10:01 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Dunno, i've read that he was going after a Burisma Exec and Obama and his group Loved him.
https://nypost.com/2023/08/04/viktor-shokin-was-threat-to-burisma-says-hunter-biden-partner-devon-archer/
“He was a threat. He ended up seizing assets of [Burisma owner] Nikolai [Zlochevsky] — a house, some cars, a couple properties. And Nikolai actually never went back to Ukraine after Shokin seized all of his assets,” Archer told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.
Shokin’s office won a court order to seize Zlochevsky’s property (Burisma owner, who has never been back to Ukraine since) on Feb. 2, 2016, the Kyiv Post reported at the time. Shokin was fired on March 29, purportedly due to his own corruption.
Biden later boasted that during the same visit, he had pressured officials to seek Shokin’s removal.
“I looked at them and said, ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” said Biden, referring to a $1 billion loan guarantee, at an event hosted by the Council on Foreign Relations in 2018. “Well, son of a *****. He got fired.”
The original conditions had nothing in them about Shokin being fired as a condition:
https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2023-08/Nov2015LoanGuaranteeConditionsIPC.pdf
then an update but still no mention of firing Shokin
https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2023-08/Nov2015LoanGuaranteeConditionsIPC.pdf
In fact, Shokin had glowing reviews from Obama's team and the Ukranian State Dept's top guy even sent him a letter praising him for combating corruption.
Only person that claimed he was corrupt was Joe.
https://nypost.com/2023/08/22/state-department-was-impressed-with-ex-prosecutor-biden-pressured-ukraine-to-fire-report/
The memos show Biden may have acted alone — and in fact counter to US policy — when he told then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to get rid of Shokin.
An FBI whistleblower has alleged Biden pushed for Shokin’s ouster because he was investigating gas company Burisma, where his son Hunter had an $80,000-a-month seat on the board of directors despite having no expertise in its business.
The source said that Burisma CEO Mykola Zlochevsky claimed he had “bribed” the Bidens for $5 million each — partly to get Shokin fired.
Joe Biden always has claimed Shokin was himself corrupt, and that he was just following an international consensus to get him removed.
I know the NYPost is a Right leaning media, but it definitely raises some eyebrows.
https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110331/documents/HMKP-116-JU00-20191211-SD067.pdf
Here is sworn testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee from 2016, a short time after this all occurred and well before there was any scrutiny on the matter. It discusses the international concern with Shokin: https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/03%2015%2016%20Ukrainian%20Reforms%20Two%20Years%20After%20the%20Maidan%20Revolution%20and%20the%20Russian%20Invasion.pdf
Here is an article from around the same time from the European Council on Foreign Relations which highlights the corruption in the PGO and the role Shokin played in this: https://ecfr.eu/article/commentary_no_reforms_no_aid_for_ukraine_7020/
And here is an article from the Kyiv Post about the firing where it discusses the criticisms of Shokin for at the minimum, being slow to reform and eliminate the corruption in the office: https://www.kyivpost.com/post/10121
The Irish Times talking about the firing being praised by the EU: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/eu-hails-sacking-of-ukraine-s-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-1.2591190
Radio Free Europe talking about the IMF calling for Shokin's firing at the time: https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-imf-demand-poroshenko-corruption/27545849.html
An article from FT, a pretty down the middle news source, discussing this back in 2019: https://www.ft.com/content/e1454ace-e61b-11e9-9743-db5a370481bc
Everything from contemporary sources seems to corroborate the story that Biden was not acting alone, that Shokin was corrupt, and that his ousting was something being sought by the international community. The memos may raise some eyebrows, but it takes reading them with some confirmation bias to see anything in them like the NY Post is claiming.
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