09-21-2023, 03:01 PM
(09-21-2023, 02:48 PM)LSUfaninTN Wrote: There’s a big gap between “supporting sovereign democracy” and “giving him back the entire old Soviet block.”
Ukraine is HARDLY a “sovereign democracy” by our Western standards. At best, it’s a fragile democracy that can EASILY be undermined by outside forces, but more realistically, it’s just a corrupt government run by oligarchs with a weak judiciary. Let Russia have them and pull out the big guns (if we haven’t already exhausted too many on Ukraine) when they attack someone who actually matters to us.
If Trump were doing this, no one would be in favor of it. They’d be calling him a war monger and probably accusing him of money laundering through Ukraine. This proxy war is silly. There is no up side.
so where do you draw the line? Which country is 1 too far since you've already conceded him Ukraine?
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