Poll Biden is too old to be next POTUS

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(09-22-2023, 09:13 PM)LSUfaninTN Wrote: It’s not just mainstream news though. You can verify that China is funding schools in the south, buying farmland next to military bases, and flying spy balloons. You can verify that Hunter Biden took millions of dollars from China in a field he had no experience in, and there’s a mysterious “big guy” who gets a cut. You can verify, by source of the national archives, that Biden used 3 aliases in 5400 emails, including ones to his son.

You can not verify that these things have anything to do with each other though. I'm not saying so because I adore Biden, I do not. I'm a spectator, and a part of me probably even would want you to find something conclusive, for I'm here for the show really. But what you actually have is not conclusive, and just too thin. I wouldn't report on it much in my newspaper, would I own one.

(09-22-2023, 09:13 PM)LSUfaninTN Wrote: As far as you saying “there are conservative MSM and liberal MSM” wrong. There’s one MSM one, which gets bashed constantly by all celebrities, all late night talk show hosts, most podcasts, and most radio hosts. These are ignored by rational people like most of the people on this board, but not by the majority of the population who also votes. These airheads who voice their one sided opinions and ignore Biden’s failures have a lot of pull in people’s voting habits. And the dude is protected by 90% of the media and people on television and I don’t see how you can deny it. You don’t need to verify from news sources the examples of Biden being a total idiot on camera. I don’t need sources other than that. Despite that, radio silence from media, late night talk shows, famous people on Twitter who aren’t right wingers…

I don't deny any of that, there's truth to it. If you extend media to shows films etc, then yes the media is overwhelmingly left-leaning and that is a tough battleground for conservatives.
Where I have an issue with is that this is your explanation for everything, and also your excuse for everything. Trump did not just get ridiculed on a daily basis out of a habit to bash conservatives - he was ridiculed on a daily basis because he did or said something ridiculus on a daily basis. And not to dismiss the senior moments of Biden, which are certainly happening more often than would be ideal, to put it mildly. They are mostly not the same thing that Trump got ridiculed for. And sure, if Trump had said God save the Queen or something like that, he'd get mocked for it too, way more than Biden did get mocked, that is probably true. But it's just complacent to leave it at that. Trump also said things like he had fallen in love with north Koreas gory dictator. And the next day, he probably said something equally absurd, like the day before. Or let crazies like Rudy talk for him, blasting out a wild conspiracy or whatever. That kind of thing will get you bashed, and it would get Biden bashed too. There's just a different quality to it and Biden doing weird Biden stuff does not come close to any of it.

(09-22-2023, 09:13 PM)LSUfaninTN Wrote: the stuff that average people get all their info from. Who talks about this stuff other than Fox News, which, like I said, takes a beating that MSNBC and CNN don’t take?

Yeah you know why that is, because FOX is even worse. In pretty much every respect. They are even more blatantly partisan, even more opinionated, even less factual, even more falling for unconfirmed conspiracy crap, and oh boy they lead their audience into each and every rabbit hole. Scandal upcoming, bombshell here, bombshell there, remember the Nunes memo for example? No one does, but for weeks it was the one big thing, until some other big thing turned out to be a complete dud, and it never stopped for years. They don't just spin, they lie. They don't just favor a politician, they completely roll over for him and call him genius and viral and powerful and stuff MSNBC would never ever say about Biden or anyone. Hannity called Trump multiple times a week, so it's said, and it's probably true, how can such a personal relation lead to any meaningful reporting? Their anchors defend themselves in court by claiming no reasonable person would take them seriously. That is the kind of stuff that gets you a beating CNN or MSNBC doesn't get, because they are demonstrably worse. And they lose massive lawsuits over it.

Aside from that, sure. FOX goes after Biden, MSNBC goes after Trump, they are both partisan and both pretty awful as a news station. I get that.

(09-22-2023, 09:13 PM)LSUfaninTN Wrote:  Who talks about it in person? Joe Rogan is the only non right leaning guy who covers it, and he verifies sources on the show and they never include solely Fox News. Bill Maher even ignores it and says “Biden is doing a great job” and is still holding on to the Russia collusion crap.

Yeah that's because Russian collusion is not just crap. And I find it a piece of cognitive dissonance to still run around and calling it "crap". You might find many flaws with the narrative, that is fair, but you have to acknowledge what was there. It's plenty, just looking at it openly, flipping through Muller's report, going through the many indictments and the convictions that resulted, or aall what was in between.
Just as one example of many, it was Trump that decided the greatest guy to run his campaign would be Paul Manafort, who does it for free! And maybe he could not have known that he is already surveilled by the FBI for years. But the simplest of vetting would have revealed that he is a Kremlin asset, as in taking in millions from Russia to lobby for their cause in all kinds of places. Oh, and he's in debt with an oligarch and therefore meets him regularly to talk about the campaign. Now just stop there, think for one moment if that had come out about Hillary's campaign manager, or Biden's. The scandal would already be complete. Wouldn't it? I usually get no answer to this question, but you don't seem like the shy type and might just provide one.

"Crap" is something else than that, and then some.

(09-22-2023, 09:13 PM)LSUfaninTN Wrote: I agree, scolding one side makes little sense. Scold both sides. I swear, I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Trump is a moron in a lot of ways. His policies were working better though. It’s character assassination and identity politics. And it’s working. It’s sad.  

The one person that does the best job of assassinating Trump's character is Trump. I for one don't need any media people to tell me that, following him on twitter alone was sufficient to reach that conclusion. If you're a moron, hostile media might paint you as such without hesitation. Of course this evolves a victim mythology, and sadly that is working. Why else go for the moron three times in a row.