10-06-2023, 01:10 PM
(10-06-2023, 11:57 AM)Nately120 Wrote: That's some pretty ridiculous shit, and if she were leading the democratic primaries by like 60 points I'd be even more disillusioned with our two party crap fest than I already am. Hilly sucked, Hillary lost, and one low bar I'll say the democrats passed is that they aren't insisting she needs to be president while she says shit like this.
Then again, Biden has another year or so to say the same thing. It'd be fitting if the 2024 election were "I'll put them in camps" versus "I'll keep our blood pure."
Maybe you were posting that for someone else, but I assure you that seeing democrats say stuff like this doesn't soften my stance on the GOP laying down and/or applauding while Trump does it. If anything this just further bolsters my self-fellating for voting for Gary Johnson in 2016. Is that a pun? Didn't mean it to be if it is.
Well, it was clearly directed at Hollo, as he asked for a statement from a Dem that echoed Stalinist ideals in the same way Trump's statements echoed Nazi ideals. This is not, of course, to say you aren't free to respond to it, but you asked for the context in which my post was made. So, we both agree that Hillary's statement was egregiously stupid, in the same way as Trump's. Even so, would I compare Hillary to Stalin or Pol Pot? Is it fair to lump Hillary, as odious as she is, in with dictators responsible for mass murder and other horrifying acts? No, it is not. Her words may echo theirs in ways, much as Trump's words echo others, but such an extreme comparison is not warranted and is only made to paint the person, and by extension their supporters, as being in lock step with some of the most horrifying regimes the planet has ever seen.
I have consistently stated I loathe Nazi comparisons as they are far too extreme. They carry far too much baggage, especially for how casually, and comfortably, some people make these comparisons. Did Trump say something that could have come out of the mouth of a national socialist? Yes. Did Hillary say something that could have come out of the mouth of a Stalinist? Yes. Is comparing either of them to those extreme ideologies, especially given the horrors those ideologies enacted on others, a fair or even wise thing to do? I say absolutely not, and anyone willing to traffic in them really needs to examine why they are so comfortable equating those with whom they disagree to the worst people humanity has to ever had to offer.
