P01135809 Echoes Hitler: Migrants "Poisoning the Blood of Our Country"

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(10-06-2023, 01:10 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Well, it was clearly directed at Hollo, as he asked for a statement from a Dem that echoed Stalinist ideals in the same way Trump's statements echoed Nazi ideals.  This is not, of course, to say you aren't free to respond to it, but you asked for the context in which my post was made.  So, we both agree that Hillary's statement was egregiously stupid, in the same way as Trump's.  Even so, would I compare Hillary to Stalin or Pol Pot?  Is it fair to lump Hillary, as odious as she is, in with dictators responsible for mass murder and other horrifying acts?  No, it is not.  Her words may echo theirs in ways, much as Trump's words echo others, but such an extreme comparison is not warranted and is only made to paint the person, and by extension their supporters, as being in lock step with some of the most horrifying regimes the planet has ever seen.

I have consistently stated I loathe Nazi comparisons as they are far too extreme.  They carry far too much baggage, especially for how casually, and comfortably, some people make these comparisons.  Did Trump say something that could have come out of the mouth of a national socialist?  Yes.  Did Hillary say something that could have come out of the mouth of a Stalinist?  Yes.  Is comparing either of them to those extreme ideologies, especially given the horrors those ideologies enacted on others, a fair or even wise thing to do?  I say absolutely not, and anyone willing to traffic in them really needs to examine why they are so comfortable equating those with whom they disagree to the worst people humanity has to ever had to offer.

I'd argue Hillary's comments about reeducation camps are more along the lines of the parts of our own glorious history during WWII that we like to pretend didn't happen.  So basically Trump is echoing the Nazis and Hillary is sounding like the most uncomfortable side of FDR.  It's the worst of WWII from both sides of the coin.

We can disagree in how apt we think these comparisons are.  I feel like Hitler's playbook is becoming more and more acceptable in this country because it gets results.  My discomfort with this stuff comes down to us having 2 political parties, one having an easy-mode into power, and our blind loyalties to our parties being used against us, as I see it.

But as long as this stuff plays well with Americans, why not just admit that we're soft on Nazism? If the Germans can shake it, we can catch it.