10-06-2023, 01:55 PM
(10-06-2023, 01:18 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I'd argue Hillary's comments about reeducation camps are more along the lines of the parts of our own glorious history during WWII that we like to pretend didn't happen. So basically Trump is echoing the Nazis and Hillary is sounding like the most uncomfortable side of FDR. It's the worst of WWII from both sides of the coin.
The Japanese were placed in internment camps, not re-education camps. As awful as they both are there is a distinct and very important difference.
Quote:We can disagree in how apt we think these comparisons are. I feel like Hitler's playbook is becoming more and more acceptable in this country because it gets results. My discomfort with this stuff comes down to us having 2 political parties, one having an easy-mode into power, and our blind loyalties to our parties being used against us, as I see it.
It depends on what you mean by Hitler's playbook. Do you mean demagoguery? Because that's been around far longer than Hitler and has been used in this country way before the rise of national socialism. Do you mean the concept of telling egregious lies? I would again refer you to the sentence above. You mean using xenophobia? I trust the point is being made.
Quote:But as long as this stuff plays well with Americans, why not just admit that we're soft on Nazism? If the Germans can shake it, we can catch it.
Why? Because we're not soft on Nazism. No one is advocating for annexing parts of Canada. No one is advocating for the rounding up and extermination of undesirable ethnicities of people with disabilities. The Nazis did not invent the things your referring to, nor have they been their sole practitioners in the last hundred years. This is why the comparison is both dangerous and utterly flawed. The Nazis didn't invent these concepts, they used them because they work and always have. As I said to Hollo above, a comparison to the Nazis automatically encapsulates every aspect of the Nazi regime. There is no chance such an accusation is made but followed up with, "well, you're not a Nazi in x,y and z manner." If you're making the comparison then you're making the comparison, it's not a buffet line where you get to pick the aspects you use for the comparison and everyone will ignore what you chose not to use. You're either all in or don't make them, because that's the effect you're going to have.
