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Hamas Attacks Israel: 70 Israelis, 198 Palestinians Dead
(10-10-2023, 09:41 AM)Dill Wrote:
The majority of the world calls the occupation illegal.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/10/commission-inquiry-finds-israeli-occupation-unlawful-under-international-law

So far it looks to me like you are applying a double standard here, on a number of levels. World opinion matters when it favors Israel,
but not when it favors palestinians under their military control. 

But I'll make the argument the IDF has and does terrorize people, focusing for the moment on Gaza.
Israel has killed thousands of civilians in Gaza. The Israeli human rights group B'etselem keeps a data base
which disaggregates casualties by gender and age. 
https://statistics.btselem.org/en/stats/during-cast-lead/by-date-of-incident?section=minors&tab=charts

Israel has killed far more Palestinian teenagers, most of the death raining down on trapped civilians from the air--to "incite fear." 

Two million people whose grandparents were stripped of their land are penned into an open air prison they cannot leave. 
Any show of resistance to that imprisonment brings bombs.  Ho hum. Excusable.

But if some break out and kill their captors there is suddenly outrage at "terrorism" which "nothing can excuse."

Hamas is nuts. Twisted. They have become more twisted year by year, and have themselves killed hundreds of 
Palestinians--anyone who supports the two-state solution and peace. But it is Israeli policy, with US support, that has
created this monster. It is aggravating that when they suddenly strike back at their jailers, so few, SAFE here in the US, have time
question why they were jailed in the first place--for three generations--while so many deny that understanding this history
should play any role in resolving present war and preventing future ones. 

Ok, you took that a bit too literally.  :)  I'm not here to support Israel, I'm here to condemn Hamas.  I can do one without the other.  

Quote:But if some break out and kill their captors there is suddenly outrage at "terrorism" which "nothing can excuse."

Were these teenagers at this festival holding anyone captive?  

What Hamas has done has no justification....had they launched a military offensive on civic/military targets then maybe some would have an argument.  
-The only bengals fan that has never set foot in Cincinnati 1-15-22




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RE: Hamas Attacks Israel: 70 Israelis, 198 Palestinians Dead - basballguy - 10-10-2023, 09:54 AM

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