10-18-2023, 07:46 PM
(10-18-2023, 07:16 PM)pally Wrote: You get emotional whenever it is pointed out that the known liars are those you support and believe. You support lying in the media simply by your obsessive devotion to Fox News...afterall they did settle a lawsuit for nearly $900 million because of the election lies. So are you against media lies or only lies that don't support your political positions?
1) Hillary never claimed a "rigged" or "stolen" election. She alleged Russian interference. Trump who won in 2016 claimed it was rigged because he lost the popular vote. Millions of "illegal" votes were counted
2) Stacy Abhams alleged correctly that as Secretary of State of Georgia Kemp did everything in his power to disenfranchise people who he considered potential Democratic voters.
3) What they alleged about their elections is irrelevant to your question.
4) This topic wasn't about Hamas or their actions...it was about media truthfulness. Fox lies...you don't care. Everyone else and the sky is falling
5) you have a long history of changing the subject or throwing in irrelevant information whenever you don't like the response to a question.
Instead of playing an endless game of "whatabout" with him, maybe actually address his point? I don't care if he's the most partisan adherent to whatever story his preferred side churns out in this board's history (he'd have quite a bit of competition btw). He raises a very valid point. The NYT's instantly published a story on the hospital "bombing" running with the Hamas version of it being the responsibility of the IDF. No waiting, no verifying, just publishing. They've since had to walk this back several times.
Tlaib, who I never thought much of but has revealed herself to be a virulent bigot, has repeated this story publicly, and continues to do so today, despite very convincing evidence that this was not caused by a IDF bomb. It went from the hospital was blown up to the hospital was heavily damaged to now it was an explosion in the parking lot that even left most of the windows nearby intact. No crater, so not an air dropped munition. Tlaib continued to repeat this obvious falsehood, or at the very least a highly probably falsehood, at the protest at the Capitol today.
So Luvnit raises a very good point about high profile members of the government intentionally spreading misinformation. You running from his point and screaming about his own biases doesn't change any of that, it just makes you look obviously afraid of confronting your own
