10-21-2023, 02:07 PM
(10-21-2023, 01:51 PM)Dill Wrote: I think you won't continue to claim that I "lied" when I said Luvnit said Tlaib CAUSED ME unrest. So no, you won't continue accusing me of failure to read what he actually wrote and not "addressing points actually made." You will continue to make unsupported claims about issues and then call them "already addressed" when asked for evidence. That is a tactic.
Since no one disputes that Tlaib repeated the erroneous claim about the hospital strike. Or that she continued to repeat it afterwards. Maybe you no longer need to keep claiming that is a "fact" and "indisputable" as if someone were disputing it.
You finally got the bolded right. But then you have to add that I claim "no damage to US interests" etc. I guess you put those words in my mouth so you could find them "obviously untrue." If you are not an ideologue, then stop this insistent misrepresentation of my arguments.
US interests and lives ARE going to be in danger, given that the US has not only sided with Israel, but is sending material support and troops to aid it as well. Given that, it's very hard to see any coming damage as somehow directly attributable to Tlaib and NYT story, which was also reported in the WSJ. https://www.wsj.com/business/media/confusion-over-gaza-hospital-blast-shows-challenge-for-journalists-covering-israel-hamas-conflict-238922b9. What reason is there to believe otherwise? If you don't have a reason, and US security is really your concern, then why keep banging the Times rather than addressing policies which have actually elevated the threat?
The "tons of publicity" you reference are going to be in this country, NOT in the ME. Though that doesn't mean some guy in Egypt who reads English wasn't pushed to throw a rock at the US embassy because of Tlaib. But if he reads Al Aribiya too, how can we tell which really motivated him?
What IS going to draw fire down on US interests is US support for Israeli's attempt to go around the Palestinian question. If and when that trouble does come, I won't be surprised if right-leaning members of this forum blame it on the Times and Tlaib. If so, it will be more deflection from the real causes of the current conflict, with the goal of keeping intact a rightwing perspective on domestic and foreign policy.
No reason to believe Luvnit has a clue to what those causes are, or interest in learning about them, but you do have a clue, given my "posting history" of deploying Israeli historians and news sources to counter disinformation about the Arab-Israeli conflict. You cannot label your way out of that by calling me the "pure ideologue."
You're really incapable of not blowing anything into a doctoral dissertation are you? You're position is wrong on its face, you don't think a US congressperson spreading terrorist propaganda is harmful to US interests or endangers US lives. Maybe it's because you doubt Hamas is a terrorist organization?
So, I'll ask point blank, as it's rather germane. Do you think Hamas is a terrorist organization?
