10-22-2023, 03:11 PM
(10-22-2023, 01:36 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I am not talking about Democrats voting FOR a Republican or helping to get a new Speaker chosen.
I am talking about how Democrats voting to remove the Speaker in the first place, to create the need for a new Speaker, means it's not 100% a situation of the Republicans making with the Democrats having absolutely zero responsibility for.
If 2% of the population wants something to happen, and then 49% of the population votes with that 2% to allow that thing to happen, both the 2% and the 49% of the population is responsible for that thing happening. You can't vote for something to happen and then wash your hands and pretend you had zero participation in the results.
Why should they keep a Speaker in office when he lied and double-crossed them? He agreed to the debt ceiling increase as did members of his caucus with the promise the appropriations would reflect that agreement. Then he folded to pressure from his even further right and submitted appropriations with draconian cuts. Then he turned around and lied to those people and agreed to a CR with Democrats. Then he blamed the Democrats for his collapse. His collapse was caused by promising the world to everyone and anyone to get votes for Speaker then failing to keep the promises he made. The Democrats did not vote for the rules package that allowed for his removal. That was all on the Republicans. If McCarthy wanted Democrat's help maybe he shouldn't have lied to them.
It is also not the Democrat's fault there was no backup plan for the next Speaker. How could they have known that? It is the norm with Speaker votes that each Party votes for their own. It should have been a bang-bang thing. vote McCarthy out, and vote a new guy in. If they want Democrats help, and they have offered, the Republicans will have to do a helluva lot better than Jim Jordan
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