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Is it OK for NYT, CNN and squad members to report misinformation
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(10-22-2023, 01:25 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You were asked to explain why her comments should be more likely to incite violence than sending direct aid and troops to support their assault on the already besieged Gaza, and that after a decade of supporting policies which separate the Palestinian question from peace with Arab states.
If you cannot do that, then you ought to at least explain why you wish to continue hyping her remarks, and a corrected Times error, instead of discussing what would be the more likely motivation for such attacks--all while styling people who don't share your selective emphasis on rhetoric "rigid ideologues."

It's been done numerous times in this thread.  A high profile congressperson continuing to spread terrorist propaganda despite it being debunked by US intelligence is a huge PR and propaganda win for Hamas, and only further legitimizes them.  If you can't wrap your mind around that obvious truth then go back to the kids table and let the adults talk in peace.

No. It hasn't been done once.

You merely assert that your (and Luvnit's) speculative connection between Tlaib and ME violence is "obvious" and "indubitable."
Again you are deploying the TACTIC. You merely assert something easily disputable is obviously true, and then
when asked to prove it, you claim "it's already been done." If I ask for post number and statement where
this occurred, I won't get it. Commands to "wrap your mind around that obvious truth" are just
performance  and a poor substitute for reasoned evidence.

NEITHER of you has explained why Tlaib's comments should prompt more violence than a US declaration of support for Israel
and aid sent so they can carry out the incursion in Gaza--along with decades of enabling occupation.

And neither can explain why you'd rather talk about Tlaib than assess other very real and effective threats.

Why should her speech produce more violence in the ME than a Fox News segment showing Tom Cotton telling Israel to 
"bounce the rubble" and not to let empathy for civilians get in the way? Was someone there on the fence about this conflict and 
suddenly tipped to Hamas, NOT because the AP or Al Jazeera or the WSJ or Al Arabiya or any of the many news organizations 
reported too soon--but because of Tlaib?

Does Hamas even know of its "huge PR win"? And how are you measuring it?  Has it changed a vote or a policy somewhere? 
Was someone assassinated because of it? Has a poll somewhere risen in Hamas' favor? So far, it looks like this tremendous effect 
you impute to Tlaib is largely in your minds; seems rather like you've an absence of knowledge about political infrastructure in
the Middle East and this speculated hyperbolic effect just expanded to fill that vacuum.

Tlaib's comments are only important in this country right now, for whatever leverage they give Republicans to diminish Dem's power to shape policy and win votes.  Any quick news search will reveal that back and forth, a struggle for the moral high ground and the power to frame the next news cycle.
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RE: Is it OK for NYT, CNN and squad members to report misinformation - Dill - 10-24-2023, 12:17 AM

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