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German Hostage Found Dead
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(11-01-2023, 08:04 AM)CKwi88 Wrote: What comment is there to be had? It's common knowledge that Hamas sucks. It's common knowledge that Israel sucks. 
This is a religious war. There is no right. Only varying degrees of wrong. Innocent people are going to die, just like this lady Hamas killed and/or beheaded, as well as those at a Gaza refugee camp Israel bombed to get to a Hamas leader. 
So if the supporter of either side wants to clutch pearls over the wrongdoings of the other, they can kick rocks, IMO. 

No. 

The bulk of people in Gaza are descended from those herded there in 1948 after the Israelis drove them off their land, 
which the Israelis now have. 

Since 1967, they have been locked there under Israeli control, without the basic human rights that Israeli citizens have. 
They have no freedom of movement; their economy is totally under Israeli control.

In 2005, after receiving US permission, Israel completely withdrew from Gaza and walled it in; it is an open air prison
(That's why Hamas had to break out with bulldozers to attack.) Gazans can be bombed with impunity if they fight back.

As conditions in Gaza have worsened, secular politics have failed or been coopted. Organizations like the PLO and PA
which recognized Israel simply appear neutralized as appropriation of land in East Jerusalem and the West Bank continues.

One branch of Palestinian resistance turned to religion and refused to compromise. Not surprisingly, it now 
attracts Gazans more than any other option. Hamas now channels a nihilistic despair of two generations raised 
inside that prison. They'll die a lot to hurt their captors a little, and perhaps to hurt the great power enabling them too.

The original and continuing dispossession, the power imbalance, the recognition thereof required for political resolution
--all that disappears once people start defining this conflict as a "religious war" with no solution.  

Israel will always have "a right to defend itself" against the people whose land and homes it continues to seize,
people for whose retaliatory violence there is "no excuse."

And our government will continue to support the dispossession, advising us, with the IDF, that the trouble really emanates from Iran.
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RE: German Hostage Found Dead - GMDino - 10-30-2023, 06:34 PM
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RE: German Hostage Found Dead - Dill - 11-01-2023, 09:57 AM
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