06-10-2015, 03:37 AM
(06-10-2015, 02:11 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote:Quote:Yes I read all that ....Yet you seem to dismiss a majority of it
Quote:Are we better off with a communist asia....Who know knows? However the communists were far from being defeated even if we hadn't intervened (as mentioned in the article.)
Quote:Or would we have been better off letting Japan and China fight it out and just supply them both ... bolstering our economy and keeping out of wars that did not concern us.No way we supply both and at the same time stay out of said wars. Japan chose sides for us when they attacked us. You have to remember that there was an internal struggle in Japan on how to deal with western imperialism. In the end Japanese militarism won that internal struggle.
Quote:Yes we manipulated Japan and showed them how to be a power, and sold them the means, then we expect them to not use those means?Pretty much what happened, But this was not just a FDR or Wilson policy, this was more of a western imperialistic world view since we bullied Japan into opening its borders to trade in the 1850's
Quote: We made the very same mistake on a smaller scale in the middle east. The only differnce is we didn't allow Iran and others to get a massive army. .... We only allowed egypt which was in our pocket.You won't get any denial from me that similar parallels can be drawn regarding todays conflicts. Though I don't think I'd sum it up quite the same as you have. But that's for a whole other game of connect the dots.
Quote:Now by smashing Japan, we gave room for communism to spread,Again that is pure speculation. No way to say that communism wouldn't have won out in the end, nor can we say that we'd be better of by not "smashing" Japan.
Quote:and now China is building up their navy and working closely with the Russians .... Basically using the UN to block any reform to the region.The relationship between Russia and China has always ebbed and flowed, nothing new there. Honestly I'm more worried about Russian than China at the moment.
Quote:I would have rather taken my chances with Japan....Well at the time western empires felt Japan was getting to big for their britches so to speak, with their encroachment on those territories.
Quote:There was no way they were coming our way ....I'm not so sure about that. Nationalism and militarism was the overpowering voice in Japan at the time. Who's to say how far they would've pushed those limits.
Quote:They would have kept russia out of europe by being at their doorstep. Smashing. Japan allowed the soviets to focus on the Middle East and Europe.Who knows how long WWII would have dragged on if Hitler didn't have a massive Russian army to fight on its eastern front.
You're playing a lot of "what if" games here, which I do find interesting. Here's one for you...what if Hitler hadn't invaded Russia? Would they (Russia) have been more engaged in the war with Japan? Talk about spreading communism! I think it would be doubtful we have the Korean war, and South east Asia may have just become a cold war stale mate much like eastern Europe. Lots of interesting scenarios that could've played out.
