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Biden now calling for Israel to pause???
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(11-13-2023, 05:59 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Show one time in history Israel killed over 1400 civilians. You expect Israel to follow rules of wars, yet Hamas who never declared war and beheaded babies among their atrocities against elderly, women, children and babies killed without warning. These civilians who died and are being held hostage did nothing wrong.

Israel declared war but is cautiously moving through Gaza to minimize civilian casualties. Hamas has no regard fro human life including for Palestinians. There is video of them firing hand held rockets and grenades as people try to flee south to safety. There is definitive proof tunnels are built under children's bedrooms. They are using the largest hospital in Gaza as a human shield to protect Hamas fighters, not Palestinians.

Just today Hamas refused fuel to start the hospital generators.

I will ask you again, what has Hamas done to protect Palestinian or Israel civilians during the war declared by Israel? Is Hamas using the terms of engagement? If not, why should Israel be expected to use the terms of engagements? They do anyway, they are using the terms of engagement.

War is an ugly thing and why Hamas never should have started it.

I think I can show you multiple times. Here, check out these graphics from the United Nations office of Humanitarian Affairs. It tracks the many thousands of civilians killed since 2008. Casualties from the current war--11,000 civilian dead as of today--have not been added. 
https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

CNBC puts the number of Palestinian dead since 2008 (mostly civilians) at 18, 600+ 
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/12/israel-hamas-war-data-shows-human-cost-of-conflict-through-the-years.html#:~:text=The%20data%20collated%20by%20CNBC,conflicts%20with%20Israel%20since%202008.

If Israel is "cautiously moving through Gaza to minimize civilian casualties," then why is the international community in such
an uproar about the deaths of civilians. 4,000 children dead already. Entire families wiped out. 
Why do virtually all Americans who don't watch Fox approve of a cease fire? 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/reuters-next-un-chief-says-gaza-deaths-show-something-wrong-with-israel-2023-11-08/
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/damning-evidence-of-war-crimes-as-israeli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-in-gaza/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/07/us/politics/israel-gaza-war-death-toll-civilians.html
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/11/1212326333/proportionality-israel-gaza-war-war-crimes#:~:text=Israel%20is%20coming%20under%20mounting,civilians%20is%20a%20war%20crime.

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PS what is your source for the beheaded babies? I've asked that before. Are you holding yourself
to the standard to which you hold the NYT? 
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RE: Biden now calling for Israel to pause??? - Dill - 11-13-2023, 06:19 PM

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