11-16-2023, 07:08 PM
(11-16-2023, 06:46 PM)Dill Wrote: Still taking the effect as cause.
No one is disputing what Hamas, or Hezbollah or Iran says.
No point in continuing to "prove" that.
What is disputed is any claim they speak for some "Arab world."
They speak for a sizeable chunk of it.
Quote:The Gulf states, Jordan, North Africa from Morocco to Egypt, Lebanon, Syria--all will accept
a one or two state solution if it brings some form of Palestinian statehood. Once that happens,
they'll be happy to help Israel clean up Hamas. Iran won't matter.
This has been addressed. There is no solution to this that will appease the religious fanatics on both sides. You're momentously naïve to think otherwise.
Quote:The risk to the Jews, whose lives and rights you prioritize over their ethnic others,
is from failing to recognize this.
Oooo, a nice little low blow there from the supposed intellectual who is above that sort of attack. I don't prioritize Jews over Palestinian lives. What I do recognize is the deliberate rape, kidnapping and murder of civilians is markedly different from civilian casualties occurring during an armed conflict. Just as the US tries and does not always succeed to reduce civilian casualties, the same can be said for Israel. Again, a difference with the terrorists being that they actually try. Also, embedding your forces in civilian areas and sensitive locations intentionally will rather exacerbate this. As for Iran no longer mattering, again childish levels of naivete from you. Iran will one day acquire a nuclear weapon and they are a genocidal, theocratic, radical Islamic terror state. To say they will no longer matter is the height of stupidity. Oh, and do spare us the "they'll only get nukes because of Trump" BS. They're always going to try and acquire them, no amount of deal making will change that.
Quote:Everyone who addresses the rhetoric rather than the historical record increases the risk.
Maybe you should start then.
