11-18-2023, 02:16 PM
(11-17-2023, 09:25 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Given the conservative movement to move our society back to the 1950's, sure people can beat their kids. Did great for that generation - just ask them.
Your first of a serious of strawmen, but I will endeavor to persevere.
Quote:More kids drink booze than don't. Americans are just weird about alcohol for some reason. Hell, we're fine with sending people off to die for their country before they can legally drink.
First off, this is not true. Most children, i.e. minors under fourteen years of age, absolutely do no consume alcohol. If we're talking about adolescents, then yes, the number isn't insignificant. But here's the thing, there is a huge difference between what you do on the sly as a teenager and what your parents openly permit you to do. teenagers test boundaries and limits, it's part of the process of growing up. I watched pornography as a teenager, my parents certainly didn't allow it. I was at a somewhat new friend's house once when I was thirteen. He asked me if I wanted to watch a porno. His mom was home and I asked how that was going to happen. He then directly asked his mom which of the four pornos she had rented was the best, she replied and then he put it on the TV in the family room. Literally while his mom was on the couch. Needless to say I stopped hanging out with that dude after that.
Quote:Weed is only a drug because black people smoked it during the Jim Crow Era and it scared white folks. Same reason gun control became a thing.
Same point for weed as booze above. Impressive way you shoe horned racism into this discussion though.
Quote:Anecdotally, my parents were fine letting me watch the most brutal violence the 80s and early 90s could produce but were weird about letting me see a set of tits. What do you think I grew up to see plenty of? I'll give you a hint - I've never seen a hockey mask wearing zombie.
Yes, we we definitely have a tolerance for violence in what our children watch that probably isn't healthy. Not sure how this bolsters your position though.
Quote:Given the push for conservatives to make schooling useless, going to school or not won't matter in a few decades anyways. Plus I've learned more useful things online than school ever taught me. Even before the rise of the internet, I learned more on my own volition than I did in school, to the point where my high school English teacher directed a student to ask me a question about Greek Mythology during our reading of the Odyssey because I knew better than him, apparently. Dude had a doctorate and was a year from retirement and couldn't answer a simple question.
I'm sorry your schooling experience was so por. I had some wonderful teachers in high School that taught me a lot. But again, not sure how this bolsters your position. The point of all of this is that the government can, and does, have restriction on what parents can and cannot do, despite your claim to the contrary. The vast majority of the time they are perfectly reasonable. It is interesting though that this parental autonomy argument goes right out the window the minute parents start taking issue with sexual and LGBT issues being taught in public school. Then all of the sudden its schools know better than parents. A bit inconsistent, no?
(11-17-2023, 10:20 PM)GMDino Wrote: Yes, just SEEING a drag show is the same as beating your child....LMAO!
How will we ever survive as a country?
All seriousness aside the right is so hung up on sex they think EVERYTHING is about sex. They can't even fathom a drag show that isn't pure erotica for the "them".
In your haste to dogpile you rather ignored the actual point being made. That being that government restrictions on parents already exist. You think a child attending a drag show is fine, in many states you can do exactly that. In Florida you cannot, or could not. Personally, I think exposing a child to a cabaret style performance is a bit much. Do I think it should be illegal, no, not personally. But in Florida they think differently. Just as there are laws in CA that I find inane and you likely have zero problem with. But pretending that Florida is beyond the pale for trying to enact such a law is just silly far left hand wringing.
