12-09-2023, 02:35 PM
(12-09-2023, 11:01 AM)GMDino Wrote: And before the usual suspects come along and say we are condoning terrorism:
Not only have you not been accused of that, I did the exact opposite in this very thread.
Quote:This isn't a defense of Hamas or any other group that is killing and raping Israelis. That should not even need to be said but some will anyway.
This is saying that the entirety of the circumstances surrounding Israel and Palestine cannot simply be looked at by what happened last.
No one is saying look at this in a vacuum, quite the opposite. What is being said, and is correct, is that attempts to create an equivalency between a terrorist organization that engages in rape, torture murder and kidnapping and the IDF is absolutely a defense of Hamas. Referring to them as "militants" or "freedom fighters" is absolutely a defense of Hamas. You don't do this, others do. Maybe you should actually examine that.
Quote:I certainly don't want a war with more innocent people killed, their homes destroyed. I'd wager that most citizens of those two countries do not either.
But we can't look at this in a vacuum and say the people of Palestine should just stop wanting to live where they did and shut up about it. Especially when you has Israeli leadership more than fine with killing anyone who might be a "human shield"...as if they chose to do that.
Diplomacy made inroads. That is the only proper way. The fringes will always be there wanting it all though.
You cannot have diplomacy when the elected government of one side has publicly proclaimed that their goal is the eradication of the other state and the genocide of their people. Maybe such a solution can be reached once Hamas is gone, but it will never, ever happen as long as Hamas is one of the factions involved.
