Is crime on the rise?

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(12-09-2023, 02:55 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: So, I will stick to focusing on the data here. The data from the article shows that violent crime was about even between 2019 and 2022, and 2022 property crimes were significantly lower than in 2019.

Overall, when we look at any sort of trends we cannot rely on just a couple of years, especially when those years involve something like the pandemic which upended to many things. So the data-based part of your argument really supports the arguments made in the podcast and in those articles.

I won't comment on the anecdotal stuff because of the nature of it. Discussing that sort of thing is where these conversations go off the rails.

I've said it before, but it bears repeating.  You want an accurate gauge of the true crime rate, use homicides.  A dead body cannot be covered up or undercharged.  I get your focus on data, but when the data is deliberately corrupted it rather loses its relevance.  Much like Biden's "strong economy" the evidence of the every day lives of people rather trumps raw numbers.