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Why is Joe Mixon under appreciated?
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(12-11-2023, 11:42 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: That makes zero sense, though. How is being happy about 4 ypc some magical caring about winning metric and wanting to be over 4 ypc means you don't actually care about winning? That's just some no true scotsman nonsense. Next you'll tell me that Joe Burrow having a 59.8 QB Rating is good because they beat the Rams when he did that, so that's a winning formula and if you're concerned about winning football, then 59.8 QB Rating is good and if you want a higher QB Rating than that then you clearly just don't care about winning.

3.5ypc is only a winning football formula when you hold a team to just 14 points and have a QB with a 122.7 QB Rating, sure... but that's just because holding a team to 14 points and having a QB who does amazing is always a winning formula regardless of rushing. Browning was averaging 11.5 yards per ATTEMPT.

Top 10 Teams in YPC 2023:
Dolphins
Ravens
Cardinals
49ers
Lions
Commanders
Bears
Bills
Chiefs
Broncos
(7 winning teams)

Bottom 5 Teams in YPC 2023:
Raiders
Buccaneers
Jaguars
Texans
Saints
Chargers
Bengals
Giants
Vikings
Patriots
(4 winning teams)

So seriously, how can wanting to have a better YPC be considered not caring about winning? The Patriots are the only team in the bottom 10 with at least a 4.0ypc, and they're at exactly 4.0ypc.

Again, even if 4.0 was some magical number, Mixon has been below it in 3 of the last 4 years and each of the last 2. That's BAD.

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This all feels suspiciously like a thread awhile back on here where someone was swearing that 60% completion would ALWAYS be considered good and enough to consider a QB to be accurate, because it was considered good 20 years ago.

Just completely refused to accept that you'd be considered inaccurate in today's NFL. The times change, and what was good enough to win games back then, aren't now.

I didn't say one group didn't care about winning or if I worded that way I didn't mean to. I was saying one group is basing they're judgement on 4 ypc based on winning games. The other group is comparing is basing it off of how it compares to the rest of the league. Of course if you average 5 ypc that's better and should put you into position to win games. I think your analogy is a little off 4 ypc does not equal a 59 passes rating.

I know we are talking about rushing. But it is funny that in the under appreciated thread you throw out Browning stats saying how amazing they are 112 passer rating 11 yds per attempt. He has been good and more than efficient. But he threw for 275yds. 126 of said yds went to the running backs on throws at the line of scrimmage. This is why I think things don't always boil down to stats. They're are more things going on within the game.
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RE: Why is Joe Mixon under appreciated? - NUGDUKWE - 12-12-2023, 12:17 AM

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