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[Mike M (the other one)]

(12-09-2023, 10:29 AM)Dill Wrote: One of your "details" was that Palestinians were offered 94% of the West Bank. No source. That's more than just "false." 
It is targeted disinformation.

Same for your "offers of statehood" in '37, '47, '67, and 2008, in which Palestinians rejected the "opportunity" to give their land to someone else,
offers made by people with no right to give away Palestinian land.

But you are sure the details don't matter? That's really just saying the facts don't matter.

One neighbor takes another neighbor's land, bulldozing their family home in the process.

But if dispossessed children throw rocks at the bulldozer, you see THAT as the threat to peace. 

Common sense OtherMike, how long would you put up with a neighbor bulldozing your property? 

So ***** what if it's not 100% accurate as far as the land division goes. 

The point is:
They WERE offered a path to statehood more than once.
Second Point is:
Israel has also tried to make peace more than once. 


For gods sake they can't even maintain a cease fire arrangement for long.

Now as far as the analogy about me owning the Land and so on? 
The Palestinians did NOT own the land nor were they self governing. The British owned all of their rights since 1922 shortly after WWI. By the time UN Resolution 181 came to be, there was already a significant number of Jews in the area.  It's not like they suddenly popped up after the Resolution. 

Both sides have claims to that land dating back over 2k years. The British tried to figure out a way to make it work and the Arabs make the Republicans Party of No look like amateurs compromisers. They've made it perfectly clear over the years that anything involving the Jews is a NO Deal.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/United-Nations-Resolution-181

1937 - United Nations Resolution 181, resolution passed by the United Nations (UN) General Assembly in 1947 that called for the partition of Palestine into Arab and Jewish states, with the city of Jerusalem as a corpus separatum (Latin: “separate entity”) to be governed by a special international regime. The resolution—which was considered by the Jewish community in Palestine to be a legal basis for the establishment of Israel, and which was rejected by the Arab community—was succeeded almost immediately by violence.


https://embassies.gov.il/MFA/AboutIsrael/Maps/Pages/The-Peel-Commission-Plan-1937.aspx

The Peel Commission Plan (1937)

In 1936, in response to the Arab Revolt against the British mandatory government and repeated Arab violence against Jews, the British government appointed a commission of inquiry headed by Lord Peel to assess the cause of the Arab riots and the performance of the Mandate government. In July 1937, the Peel Commission recommended for the first time a partition of the land into a Jewish state and an Arab state alongside an international zone, stretching from Jerusalem to Jaffa, that would remain under British mandatory authority. The Commission also recommended an exchange of land and population between the two states.

The Peel partition plan was rejected by the Arabs, and was widely debated amongst the Jewish leadership. In 1938, the British declared the plan unimplementable.


Both clearly says 2 states. I'm not going to list anymore, cause you've already made up your mind that i'm wrong your right. Take your nit-picking elsewhere.  

Both sides have created this current mess by pushing each other to this point, to argue over who started it is stupid. It's been going on like this between them for over 2k years. It seems like it's the Crusades all over again.