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(12-15-2023, 03:08 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote:  Also, kindly stop derailing a thread about female hostages being raped and killed in order to defend your indefensible position.  Thank you.

First, a post to explain why I won't be following that polite order on principle. 

The disinformation surrounding the Arab-Israeli conflict enables bad U.S. foreign policy and an illegal occupation. In liberal democracies, challenging disinformation and contesting ideological frames which otherwise limit and distort understanding of policies is generally considered good thing. 

So three points of context that should operative on every thread about the current Hamas-Israel war:

1. Hamas exists because of Israeli dispossession and occupation (not because of "ISLAM" or "anti-semitism"). 

2. The current war, and all its ugly events, follow from a confluence right-wing Israeli and right-wing Palestinian politics.

3. And no one who really wants to "contribute to a solution to the actual issue" will block discussion of 1 and 2 on any thread thereon.

Expanding context is a requirement on this thread especially. No serious discussion of rape as a war crime can go very far as repetitive "condemnation." Even a lengthy, lurid description of rape evidence to help people imagine the crime will become tiresome if repeated. Hence we BOTH link discussion to more than just rape and more than just Hamas, striving to place these incidents in a larger context. 

You do this by, for example, transferring the hate and anger you foment here to other targets, like "leftist progressives" who supposedly aren't moving fast enough to condemn rape as a military tactic (and without even checking whether that is actually the case). 

That's not "derailing" from your perspective. Nor is OtherMike's foray into historical error on Israel's behalf, which also escapes your urge to censor. So your derailing charge is just a very selective filtering of thread contributions through a hard right vision of what the conflict is about. And that vision can only be maintained by policing information and perspectives which undermine it.