01-07-2024, 06:17 PM
(01-06-2024, 03:24 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Actually, the definition of insurrection according to pretty much everything I have read would reasonably and objectively point to what occurred three years ago as one. A riot is a violent action by a group of people. It becomes an insurrection when it is aimed at disrupting the government. So if you consider what happened on January 6th a riot, then you would have to consider it an insurrection because there is no doubt it was aimed at disrupting the government. If Trump aided in those actions and if the office of the POTUS is included in the section (which contextually would be the case if we look at it through an originalist lens), then the Constitution says he is disqualified from office. Your problem is with the 14th Amendment of the Constitution, not those enforcing it.
Didn't read this one?
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/insurrection
"an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence:"
There was no plan to take and maintain control with installing their own government. The fact that it's even debateable if it's a riot or insurrection proves the point It is an exceptional and complicated charge, and there are specific legal criteria and elements beyond the whim of someone parsing the definition of words. That why NO ONE has been charged with insurrection.
If it was actually an insurrection, why was NO ONE charged or convicted of it? You don't think they would have done that, if there was any hope of success, to give this challenge a modicum of standing? The election fraud and interference are just that - separate and distinct from insurrection. And, unfortunately, not disqualifying.
This is nothing but a series of hailmary's - there are about 6 elements to this which nearly all seem pretty easily and likely to fail. It would be nice if the "pro democracy" party would be a little less fascist with their political opponents. And when the SCOTUS rightfully smacks this down, you can bet the "anti-fascist" party will renew cries to pack the court.
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