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According to the Bengals social media Myles Murphy generated the 2nd best pressure
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(01-13-2024, 05:28 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: You are harping on totals, not rates. A guy who doesn'tcplay as much won't accumulate as many counting stats, savvy? 

Murphy was raw coming out of college. He was never gonna start ahead if Hendrickson (2nd in league in sacks) and Hubbard. Hubbard had a down year, but I think an injury was part of it (he is having off-season surgery, I think). Ossai got hurt early and found himselglf behind Murphy & Sample when he got back. 

For this year,,I think you can put DE as one of the positions we do the least at. Right up there with QB, PK, IOL, and LB. 

Which is why I put and acknowledged the % of snaps that Murphy played. Only one of those top-5 rookie sack guys played at least 2/3 of their team's defensive snaps. So even if you doubled Murphy's snaps and production there's no way he passes the guys with 16, 19, and 22 QB Hits and a good amount of sacks to go with them... but you can't even just double his stats because...

When looking at % played you can't fall into the fallacy of playing 2 or 3 times the snaps will give you 2 or 3 times the sacks and qb hits. We have seen this with Carlos Dunlap, with Carl Lawson, with BJ Hill, heck even the first year Trey Hendrickson was here people were saying he would get even more sacks than his FA year with the Saints because he only played 57% of the snaps., then he played over 150 more snaps his first year with us and got 0.5 more sacks because playing more means you need to do more which tires you out more. It isn't just additive to statistical production.

Just adding more snaps doesn't magically add an equal amount of more counting stats, and "pressure" is 100% an arbitrary determination which is why every single site that judges pressure has different totals. At least sacks and QB hits are something you can physically see if it happened or not.

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Not to say I am writing him off or anything, I still hope he is amazing next year. (Or it is going to look terrible that we took a raw project backup for our 1st round pick when we are in a SB window.) I am just not going to get hyped over a Bengals team social media post that is missing information to the point that it overwrites both what I saw and what non-opinion stats show.
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RE: According to the Bengals social media Myles Murphy generated the 2nd best pressure - TheLeonardLeap - 01-13-2024, 05:51 PM

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